CAPTIONING
JUNE 3, 2009
BOCC REGULAR MEETING
MORNING SESSION


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>>KEN HAGAN:  GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE JUNE 3rd, 
2009, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY 
COMMISSIONERS.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE AND INVOCATION, 
GIVEN BY OUR CHAPLAIN, AL HIGGINBOTHAM.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.
OH, FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER THIS ASSEMBLED BODY 
TODAY AND ALL THE FOLKS HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS WE 
AS A COMMUNITY, AS FRIENDS, AND SOME FAMILY MAKE DECISIONS 
THAT WILL OUTLINE A COURSE FOR THE FUTURE.
WE KNOW TIMES ARE TOUGH, AND IT WILL BRING OUT THE BEST AND 
THE BRIGHTEST IDEAS.
HELP US SEE THAT LIGHT IN THAT WAY.
AMEN.
>> AMEN.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS TO PRESENT, AND 
I'M PRIVILEGED TO PASS OUT THE FIRST ONES TO THE PROSPERITY 
CAMPAIGN AS WE SET ASIDE THE MONTH OF JUNE 2009 AS 
PROSPERITY CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION DAYS.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PROSPERITY CAMPAIGN, 
MARLENE McCLURE, AND I BELIEVE DAVE ROGOFF MIGHT BE HERE AS 
WELL FROM HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
WELCOME, EVERYONE.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>>KEN HAGAN:  I'M PLEASED TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION INTO 
THE RECORD.
IT STATES, WHEREAS, THE PROSPERITY CAMPAIGN OF HILLSBOROUGH 
COUNTY ASSISTS LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN 
ACHIEVING ECONOMIC SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND PROVIDES THEM 
ACCESS TO FINANCIAL EDUCATION AND OTHER ASSET-BUILDING 
PROGRAMS; AND WHEREAS, ONE SUCH PROGRAM OFFERS FREE TAX 
RETURN ASSISTANCE AND PROMOTES EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT 
APPROVED BY CONGRESS IN 1975 AS A WAY TO IMPROVE THE 
QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; AND 
WHEREAS, VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO 
HELP DEVELOP TAX PREPARATION SITES, TRAIN AND CERTIFY 
VOLUNTEERS, AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO FINANCIAL EDUCATION.
THIS YEAR'S OUTCOMES RESULTED IN AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF 9.8 
MILLION IN TAX REFUNDS AND 3.8 MILLION IN EARNED INCOME TAX 
CREDITS AND CHILD CREDIT REFUNDS FOR LOW-INCOME RESIDENTS 
OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; AND WHEREAS, THE PROSPERITY 
CAMPAIGN ENCOURAGES THE USE OF THIS REFUND FOR NECESSITIES, 
SUCH AS RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION, SAFE HOUSING, COLLEGE 
FUNDS OR SAVINGS; AND WHEREAS, THE PROSPERITY CAMPAIGN IS A 
UNIQUE COLLABORATION OF PUBLIC, PRIVATE, AND NONPROFIT 
ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS AARP, TAX-AIDE FOUNDATION, BRIGHT 
BEGINNINGS, THE CHILDREN'S BOARD OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GOVERNMENT, INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, 
SUNCOAST SCHOOLS FEDERAL CREDIT UNION, TAMPA BAY WORKFORCE 
ALLIANCE, UNITED WAY OF TAMPA BAY, AND WACHOVIA/WELLS 
FARGO; AND WHEREAS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS PROUD TO SHARE 
IN THIS EFFORT OF PROMOTING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND 
FINANCIAL EDUCATION TO OUR CITIZENS WHO NEED THEM THE MOST.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY 
COMMISSIONERS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY 
SET ASIDE THE MONTH OF JUNE 2009 AS "PROSPERITY CAMPAIGN 
VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION DAYS" IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND 
URGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF SUCH A 
PROGRAM AND OFFER THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO THE EFFORTS 
THAT BENEFIT THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO NEED IT MOST.
EXECUTED THIS 3rd DAY OF JUNE, 2009, SIGNED BY ALL SEVEN OF 
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO 
COME DOWN AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
GOOD MORNING.
I AM DELIGHTED TO JOIN YOU TODAY IN CELEBRATING THE MONTH 
OF JUNE AS PROSPERITY CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION DAYS.
THE EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESS OF THIS YEAR'S CAMPAIGN CAN BE 
ATTRIBUTED TO TIRELESS EFFORTS MADE BY HUNDREDS OF 
VOLUNTEERS AND A MARQUEE GROUPS FOR NONPROFIT 
ORGANIZATIONS, GOVERNMENT, AND CORPORATE PARTNERS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING ON OUR SUCCESS AND GEARING UP 
FOR NEXT YEAR.
I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS 
WHO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO HOST THE FREE TAX 
PREPARATION SITES AND LINK TAX CITIZENS AND CLIENTS TO 
BENEFICIAL REWARDS.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE DAVE ROGOFF COME UP AND INTRODUCE THE 
COMMITTEE STANDING BEHIND ME.
THANK YOU.
>>DAVE ROGOFF:  THANK YOU.
DAVE ROGOFF, DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ABLE TO 
COME TODAY REPRESENTING OUR PARTNERS.
MICHELLE MAYNOR FROM WACHOVIA/WELLS FARGO, ELLEN STOUFFER 
FROM UNITED WAY, AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT ELLEN'S BOSS 
EMORY IVORY, WHO'S VICE PRESIDENT OF UNITED WAY -- HE'S THE 
INCOMING CHAIR, BUT HE COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS MORNING, AND I 
OF COURSE WOULD HAVE TO INTRODUCE LEE [INCOMPREHENSIBLE] 
WHO IS THE COORDINATOR OF THE PROGRAM.
AND YOU MET MARLENA, AND SHE MENTIONED -- YOU DID MENTION -
- OKAY.
UNFORTUNATELY THE OTHER PEOPLE COULD NOT MAKE IT, BUT I DID 
WANT TO INTRODUCE THE PEOPLE WHO DID ATTEND TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE FEEL HONORED.
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  MARLENA, ACKNOWLEDGING THE WORK THAT'S 
BEEN DONE, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE NEED THIS MOST 
IS JUST SO APPROPRIATE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE FOR DOING 
WHAT YOU DO, AND MY FRIENDS USUALLY GET AN EXTRA ADDED 
ATTRACTION.
I USUALLY HARASS THEM IN THE AUDIENCE BEFORE I COMMEND THEM 
FOR WHAT THEY DO.
I'M SO SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOU OUT THERE OR YOU WOULD HAVE 
GOTTEN THAT TREATMENT.
IT WAS SO NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU TO THE REST OF YOU AS WELL.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE 
NEXT PROCLAMATION.
>>JIM NORMAN:  BOARD MEMBERS, TODAY THIS IS -- THIS IS 
REALLY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE BESTOWED UPON ME TO BE ABLE 
TO GIVE THIS PROCLAMATION TO WHAT I PERCEIVE IS A REALLY 
GREAT MAN AND A GREAT FLORIDIAN.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PLAY A VIDEO OF SOMETHING THAT HE 
IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN.
HE'S TAKEN HIS OWN MONEY AND INVESTED IN TRYING TO HELP 
YOUNG PEOPLE -- ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT TRYING TO 
HELP YOUNG PEOPLE WITH TUTORS THAT WILL HELP THESE YOUNG 
FOLKS GET ACCUSTOMED TO LEARNING AND TAKING THEM WHERE THEY 
CAN GET ON WITH THEIR CAREERS AND LIVES AND BE SUCCESSFUL 
YOUNG PEOPLE.
IF YOU-ALL WOULD RIGHT NOW PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO.
[VIDEO PLAYING]
>> OLIN MOTT HAS A GOAL, KEEP STUDENTS IN SCHOOL.
>> IT CHANGES THEIR BEHAVIOR.
ONCE A KID GETS A LITTLE BIT OF BRAIN POWER, HE CAN GET A 
JOB, AND WITHOUT THAT, HE'S A LOST SOUL.
>> SO THE TAMPA BUSINESSMAN TURNED TO HIS FRIENDS, LIKE THE 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
>> IT'S NOT JUST PUTTING EVERYBODY IN JAIL AND LOOKING AT 
THE BACK SIDE OF THIS.
LOOK AT THE FRONT END.
IF WE CAN PREVENT THINGS BEFORE THEY BEGIN TO HAPPEN, THEN 
WE'RE MUCH, MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL.
>> THIS GROUP NOW FUNDS A TUTORING PROJECT OF SCATH, THE 
SUNCOAST AREA TEACHERS TRAINING HONORS PROGRAM, PAIRING 
THEM WITH PUPILS IN TEN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
>> AND OUR STUDENTS GO THERE AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK, AND 
THEY SPEND AS MUCH AS UP TO FOUR TO FIVE HOURS PER STUDENT.
>> SUCH INTERACTION TEACHES THE TUTORS HOW TO TEACH.
>> EFFECTIVE TEACHERS ARE CONSTANTLY ASSESSING THE STUDENTS 
IN THEIR CLASSROOM.
>> THE TUTORS PICK UP OTHER SKILLS.
>> BEHAVIOR MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO LEARN AND LEARNING HOW TO 
KEEP THEM OCCUPIED AND KEEP THEM FOCUSED.
>> AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE SHOWING BENEFITS, 
BOTH IN PERFORMANCE ...
>> IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THE SERVICES THAT THESE TUTORS 
PROVIDED TO THEM, SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS WOULD NOT HAVE 
BEEN PROMOTED TO THE NEXT GRADE.
>> ... AND PERSONALLY.
>> SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT TIME HERE WITH 
SOMEONE THAT THEY THINK CARES ABOUT THEM MAKES A WHOLE 
DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD TO THEM.
[END OF VIDEO]
>>JIM NORMAN:  I'D LIKE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION, THEN I'D 
LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE TO THAT VIDEO.
I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY STUDENT THAT OLIN HAS ENGAGED IN 
THESE PROGRAMS, NOT ONE STUDENT HAS FAILED.
HE TOOK THE -- THE WORST MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT ARE OUT IN 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, TOOK HIS OWN MONEY, HIS OWN TIME, WENT 
OUT, RAISED MONEY TO HIRE THESE TUTORS AND PUT THEM IN 
THESE SCHOOLS TO HELP OUR KIDS.
WHAT A GREAT MAN TO HAVE THAT KIND OF VISION, BUT I WANT TO 
READ THIS PROCLAMATION THAT SPOTS AND TALKS ABOUT A LOT 
MORE OF HIS VISION.
WHEREAS, OLIN MOTT HAS BEEN A STRONG CIVIC SUPPORTER OF OUR 
COMMUNITY FOR DECADES AND IS ONE OF THE SPECIAL GROUP OF 
BUSINESS LEADERS WHICH HELPS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THRIVING 
AND STRONG; AND WHEREAS, MR. MOTT HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY 
INTERESTED IN HELPING CHILDREN, MOST NOTABLY RECENTLY WITH 
HIS WORK TO UNITE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA COLLEGE OF 
EDUCATION STUDENTS WITH CHILDREN FROM JOSHUA HOUSE TO 
RECEIVE FREE TUTORING AND ACCESS TO DONATED LAPTOPS; AND 
WHEREAS, THIS PROGRAM WAS EXPANDED TO PUBLIC MIDDLE SCHOOLS 
AND WAS SUCH A SUCCESS IT NOW WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN DOZENS 
OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS, MAKING IT A UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN 
THE UNIVERSITY AND THE COMMUNITY; AND WHEREAS, THIS 
OUTSTANDING TUTORING PROGRAM WAS STARTED WITH FUNDS RAISED 
AT MR. MOTT'S ANNUAL MICHELIN GOLF TOURNAMENT THAT SUPPORTS 
JOSHUA HOUSE, WHICH HAS DONATED MILLIONS TO THE CHARITY 
PROJECTS; AND WHEREAS, MR. MOTT FURTHER HAS SUPPORTED 
COUNTLESS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IN 
ADDITION TO HIS BELOVED JOSHUA HOUSE AND THE CHILDREN'S 
HOME SOCIETY, SUCH AS THE RECENTLY-BUILT A KID'S PLACE 
SHELTER IN BRANDON, THE BLACK WATCH SOCCER CLUB, BRANDON 
PANTHERS YOUTH BASEBALL CLUB, AND THE FLORIDA STATE FAIR.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY 
COMMISSIONERS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, HEREBY 
EXPRESSES ITS HEARTFELT GRATITUDE TO THIS GREAT GENTLEMAN, 
MR. OLIN MOTT.
AND ON A PERSONAL NOTE -- AND MARK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU 
KNOW THIS, BUT HE DOESN'T BRAG VERY MUCH ABOUT HIS 
SUCCESSES AND HIS COMMITMENT TO BOTH HILLSBOROUGH AND THIS 
COUNTRY, BUT HE'S ONE OF THE SURVIVORS THAT ALSO SERVED AT 
PEARL HARBOR.
THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT AMERICAN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO 
INTRODUCE YOU-ALL AND BRING HIM UP.
MR. OLIN MOTT.
[APPLAUSE]
>> WELL, I'M QUITE HUMBLED.
I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER EXAGGERATES A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T FEEL THAT I'VE DONE ALL THIS THAT HE CLAIMS THAT I 
HAVE, BUT WITH MY AGE, I DON'T HAVE A VERY LONG MEMORY 
EITHER, YOU KNOW.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS I'VE DONE 
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT -- YOU KNOW, WE STARTED 
BACK YEARS AGO WITH THE "SAY NO TO DRUGS."
AFTER NANCY REAGAN ANNOUNCED IT, WE PUT A PROGRAM THROUGH 
THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS THAT PAID OFF 
MAGNIFICENTLY.
BUT THE PLEASURE IS ALL MINE.
THIS IS WHAT KEEPS YOU YOUNG.
AT 88 I'M -- I'M STILL A BABY, REALLY, BUT I HAVE TO GIVE 
MY WIFE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING I'VE EVER DONE BECAUSE SHE 
HAS BEEN SUCH A SUPPORTER, AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEEN 
HERE TODAY, BUT SHE JUST GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AND IS NOT 
ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT I OWE EVERYTHING TO HER BECAUSE SHE'S 
MADE MY LIFE A REAL PLEASURE AND HAS GIVEN ME THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED OVER MY 
LIFETIME.
WE'VE BEEN MARRIED NOW 63 YEARS.
MY SON IS HERE, AND HE CAN ATTEST THAT MY WIFE AND I HAVE 
NEVER HAD AN ARGUMENT IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN --
[LAUGHTER]
-- OR BEHIND OUR -- AND ONE THING THAT'S MADE THE SUCCESS 
OF OUR MARRIAGE, I BELIEVE, IS WE HAVE NEVER DISCUSSED 
FINANCES.
IN 63 YEARS SHE WRITES ME A NOTE I NEED THIS, AND I GIVE IT 
TO HER, SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT WORKED.
[LAUGHTER]
BUT THIS IS REALLY HUMBLING.
I APPRECIATE IT TO NO END.
JOSHUA HOUSE HAS BEEN A FAVORITE, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT 
THE PERSON THAT GOT ME STARTED OFF IN THIS DIRECTION WAS 
NONE OTHER THAN EX-COMMISSIONER DOTTIE MacKINNON, DOTTIE 
BERGER MacKINNON, WHO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO COME DOWN THIS 
MORNING AND WHO I ADMIRE IMMENSELY.
I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, AND ON BEHALF OF 
THE -- MY SON, WHO IS A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE THINGS THAT I 
DO, I'D SAY THANK YOU EACH AND EVERY ONE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
[APPLAUSE]
>>MARK SHARPE:  OLIN, YOU TRULY ARE AN AMERICAN HERO, AND I 
JUST WANT TO -- AND I'M SURE ALL THE BOARD FEELS THIS WAY, 
THAT WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
YOU -- YOU LEARN A LOT ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL BY THE COMPANY 
THAT THEY KEEP, AND COMMISSIONER NORMAN YEARS AGO TOLD ME 
THERE'S A MAN THAT YOU'VE GOT TO TALK TO AND FOR NO OTHER 
REASON OTHER THAN HE'S COMMITTED TO HIS COMMUNITY AND HE 
BELIEVES DEARLY, AND WHEN HE BELIEVES IN SOMETHING, HE GETS 
BEHIND IT.
I SOUGHT YOU OUT AS A RESULT OF HIS RECOMMENDATION AND SAT 
DOWN WITH YOU -- THIS WAS YEARS AGO -- AND JUST CAME AWAY 
SO INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED BY -- BY THE MAN.
YOU NEVER ASKED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHEN YOU NEED 
SOMETHING TO HELP OTHERS, AND SOMEONE WHO'S SO COMMITTED TO 
EDUCATION, I JUST TELL YOU, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 
YOUR PASSION IN HELPING ALL THESE INCREDIBLY BRIGHT PEOPLE, 
YOUNG KIDS, MANY OF THEM WHO JUST DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT 
MENTOR -- PERHAPS THERE'S CHALLENGES AT HOME, BUT YOU KNOW 
THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR 
COMMUNITY, AND I JUST -- FOR A MAN WHO'S 88 -- YOU'RE 88 
YEARS YOUNG, AND I HOPE YOU HAVE 88 MORE YEARS TO CONTINUE 
TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I JUST WANT TO 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK COMMISSIONER NORMAN FOR 
BRINGING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD AND AS WELL, DOTTIE, FOR 
COMING OUT HERE AND OTHERS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOD BLESS YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER WHITE.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  OLIN, IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO SEE YOU DOWN 
HERE AS WELL AS RICK, YOUR SON, AND DOTTIE BERGER 
MacKINNON.
FOR THOSE THAT REALLY HAVE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT 
DOWN WITH YOU AND COME AWAY WITH SOME OF YOUR WISDOM, 
THEY'RE REALLY SHORTSIGHTING THEMSELVES.
ONE OF THE OTHER GREAT THINGS THAT I PERSONALLY LOVE ABOUT 
OLIN, WHEN YOU SEE HIM -- AND I SERVE ON ANOTHER BOARD WITH 
HIM, HE IS NEVER, EVER SHORT FOR WORDS.
IF HE WANTS YOU TO KNOW SOMETHING, HE TELLS YOU EXACTLY 
LIKE IT IS.
IF YOU -- IF YOU WANT IT PAINTED, HE'S THE WRONG -- HE'S 
THE WRONG PERSON TO ASK BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO TELL YOU HOW 
IT IS, AND I REALLY RESPECT THAT, AND THAT'S VERY RARE 
THESE DAYS.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT, BUT OLIN, YOU GIVE SO MUCH BACK TO THE 
COMMUNITY AND YOU SELL SOME OF THE BEST TIRES IN TOWN TOO.
PEOPLE HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT YET EITHER, BUT YOU GIVE SO 
MUCH TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER SHARPE JUST SAID, 
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE GENTLEMAN THAT -- THAT WE'RE 
SUPPOSED TO BE GOING TO LUNCH WITH IS -- OLIN ASKED FOR 
SOMETHING, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, AND 
I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL THAT, BUT ESPECIALLY HE'S STILL 
TRYING TO GIVE BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY AS WE SPEAK.
HE'S STILL -- AT 88 YEARS OLD STILL TRYING TO PUT THINGS 
TOGETHER TO GIVE BACK TO CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND 
THAT'S SO COMMENDABLE.
AND AT 88 YEARS OLD, STILL GOING TO WORK EACH AND EVERY 
DAY, GOING TO WORK, TRYING TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY A BETTER 
PLACE, STILL SERVING ACTIVELY ON BOARDS, OLIN, YOU'RE JUST 
A ROLE MODEL FOR ALL OF US, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU, I 
GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE LEGACY YOU'RE 
LEAVING YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR SON IN THIS COUNTY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
OLIN, I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR COMPLIMENTS ALL THE WAY 
AROUND THIS DAIS WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT BECAUSE YOU 
CERTAINLY DESERVE THEM.
MARK, I GOT MUCH THAT SAME MARCHING ORDER BUT NOT FROM JIM 
NORMAN, I GOT IT FROM A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, AND HER NAME 
IS DOTTIE BERGER.
A LONG TIME AGO SHE SAID OLIN MOTT, YOU HAVE TO MEET HIM.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT HER AS MUCH AS WE WERE LOOKING AT YOU, 
AND SHE'S TRYING TO SIT THERE BEING VERY COOL AND SHE'S 
KIND OF SNIFFLING AND DOING THAT KIND OF STUFF BECAUSE SHE 
KNOWS IN TERMS OF YOUR PHILANTHROPY AND IN TERMS OF YOUR 
LEADERSHIP FOR YOUTH TO SHOW THEM HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL NO 
MATTER WHAT.
ONE THING I HAVE TO ADD TO YOUR CREDENTIALS, OLIN, IS THAT 
YOU'RE A VERY, VERY, VERY WISE MAN.
THE FIRST COMMENT YOU MADE WHEN YOU CAME UP THERE WAS, YOU 
KNOW, JIM NORMAN EXAGGERATES, AND YES, SIR, HE DOES, BUT IN 
THIS CASE -- IN THIS CASE -- IN THIS CASE HE DIDN'T -- HE 
DID NOT EXAGGERATE.
THE COMPLIMENTS HE GAVE YOU WERE --
>>JIM NORMAN:  NICE HAIR.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU.
SO WELL-EARNED.
THAT'S FROM SITTING NEXT TO YOU FOR SIX MONTHS.
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, YOU 
CONTINUE TO DO, AND MR. MOTT, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'VE GOT BIG 
SHOES AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO USE THEM TO FIT THIS 
GUY'S SHOES.
SO NICE TO SEE YOU AS WELL.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE DONE FOR 
THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  THANK YOU FOR THAT COMPLIMENT ON MY 
HAIR.
I'M REAL GRATEFUL.
I WORKED VERY HARD.
NOW, I'LL TELL YOU IT'S DISTURBING TO ME WITH THE 
RENOVATIONS I'M SEEING ON THE ELEVATORS THAT WE NO LONGER 
HAVE THAT PRIMPING DOOR.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE FULL -- FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT 
HAVEN'T NOTICED IT YET, YOU CAN'T GIVE THAT ONE LAST-MINUTE 
LOOK-OVER BEFORE YOU GET OFF.
BUT 15 YEARS AGO I LAY IN A SPINAL CENTER, AND A MAN BY THE 
NAME OF BOB THOMAS CALLED ME AND SAID YOU AND I ARE GOING 
TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER REAL WELL HERE IN THE FUTURE, AND 
HE CAME TO MY HOME AND VISITED, AND HE SAID THERE'S ANOTHER 
FELLOW I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 
BREAKFAST, AND WE HAD BREAKFAST THERE AT FRED'S MARKET.
IT WAS YOU THAT I MET.
I THINK THIS MORNING -- AND THEY'RE NOT MY WORDS, I BELIEVE 
THEY'RE THOMAS JEFFERSON, WHO SAID, THE BEST USE OF LIFE IS 
TO SPEND IT ON SOMETHING THAT WILL OUTLAST IT, AND YOU'VE 
CERTAINLY DONE THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN AN INFLUENCE THROUGH EXAMPLE, AND I CHERISH THE 
WORDS "FRIENDSHIP" WHEN I LOOK AT YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU, AL.
I CAN REMEMBER THAT VERY WELL, AND GUESS WHAT, YOU STARTED 
WALKING, DIDN'T YOU?
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND -- WELL, THE LORD'S WITH US, WE ALL KNOW THAT, AND 
IT JUST -- I HAVE NO WORDS TO EXPRESS MY FEELINGS.
THE BOARD HERE AND TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA -- I 
CAME TO TAMPA IN 1955 BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONE TOWN -- AND I 
HAD RESEARCHED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY -- I WANTED TO GO INTO 
BUSINESS FOR MYSELF, AND TAMPA JUST KEPT POPPING UP AND 
POPPING UP.
AND GUESS WHAT?
IT HAS BEEN SO KIND TO ME.
THIS TOWN IS THE FRIENDLIEST TOWN AND ONE OF THE MOST -- 
WITH THE TOTAL POPULATION IS SO SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING 
THAT IS RIGHT, AND FOR THAT I THANK YOU PEOPLE FOR HAVING 
DONE A GOOD JOB.
WE CHERISH YOUR THOUGHTS AND WE ADMIRE YOUR STAMINA, AND IN 
TIMES LIKE THESE ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS LIVE LIKE A POOR MAN 
AND YOU CAN MAKE A GO, OKAY?
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MR. MOTT FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND 
CONTINUE TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
NOW I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WHITE HAS OUR LAST PROCLAMATION 
THIS MORNING.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
IF I COULD HAVE AYANA WIGGINS AND ALENA RANSOM COME 
FORWARD.
GOOD MORNING, LADIES.
FORWARD MEMBERS, I'M PROUD TO PRESENT THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER 
KING JR. MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP PRESENTATION AND PROCLAMATION 
THIS MORNING.
THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. SCHOLARSHIP FUND WAS 
ESTABLISHED IN 1988 BY COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO SUPPORT HIGHER 
EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY IS FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED BY COUNTY AND CITY 
EMPLOYEES WHO COMPLETELY VOLUNTEER TO HAVE MONIES DEDUCTED 
FROM THEIR PAYCHECKS.
SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THAT FUND IN 1988, OVER HALF A 
MILLION DOLLARS HAVE BEEN AWARDED TO OVER 500 STUDENTS.
STUDENTS ARE CHOSEN REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, OR CREED.
SCHOLARSHIPS ARE AWARDED BASED ON ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, 
FINANCIAL NEED, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE.
DURING APRIL OF THIS YEAR 25 STUDENTS WHO GRADUATED FROM 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS RECEIVED $1,000 SCHOLARSHIPS 
EACH TO FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION.
SEVEN OF THOSE STUDENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY TO 
ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS, BUT WE ONLY HAVE TWO.
FIVE OF THE OTHERS HAD PREVIOUS COMMITMENTS.
AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION, AND THE 
PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS:  WHEREAS, THE EMPLOYEES OF 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ESTABLISHED THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING 
JR. MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP FUND IN 1988 TO COMMEMORATE THE 
LEGACY OF A GREAT AMERICAN WHO SPENT AND GAVE HIS LIFE 
SERVING OTHERS AND MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE; 
WHEREAS, DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A VERY EDUCATED MAN WHO 
ATTENDED SEGREGATED ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOLS GRADUATING 
AT THE TENDER AGE OF 15, WHO OBTAINED A BACHELOR'S DEGREE 
FROM MOREHOUSE COLLEGE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, WHO DELIVERED 
THE VALEDICTORIAN ADDRESS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA 
CROZER THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY, AND WHO OBTAINED A DOCTORATE 
OF PHILOSOPHY FROM BOSTON UNIVERSITY; WHEREAS, EDUCATION 
WAS THE CORNERSTONE OF DR. KING'S LIFE, AND THE EMPLOYEES 
OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FELT IT APPROPRIATE TO HONOR HIS 
MEMORY BY ESTABLISHING AN EDUCATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP IN HIS 
NAME; WHEREAS, THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE AWARDED ANNUALLY TO 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES REGARDLESS OF 
RACE, COLOR, OR CREED WHO WANT TO FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION; 
AND WHEREAS, THE FIRST SCHOLARSHIP WAS AWARDED IN 1989 AND 
SINCE THAT TIME THE FUND HAS PROVIDED MORE THAN $500,000 TO 
MORE THAN 400 DESERVING STUDENTS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; 
AND WHEREAS, THE CITY AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES CONTINUE TO FUND 
-- TO FINANCIALLY FUND AND SUPPORT THIS SCHOLARSHIP FUND 
VOLUNTARILY BY CONTRIBUTING THROUGH PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS AND 
FUNDRAISERS; WHEREAS, THIS YEAR 25 STUDENTS EACH HAVE 
RECEIVED $1,000 SCHOLARSHIPS TO FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION, 
INCLUDING STUDENTS DEEKSHA BHAT, DENZEL BROWN, CHRISTOPHER 
BURNEY, JO DRAGGOTA, CIARA JOHNSON, ALENA RANSOM, AND AYANA 
WIGGINS.
NOW BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 
OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, DOES HEREBY SET ASIDE THE 
MONTH OF JUNE 2009 AS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. MEMORIAL 
SCHOLARSHIP FUND MONTH.
CONGRATULATIONS, LADIES.
[APPLAUSE]
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS AYANA VIVIAN WIGGINS.
I AM A JUNE 1st, 2009 GRADUATE OF BROOKS DEBARTOLO 
COLLEGIATE HIS SCHOOL.
AS OF THIS SUMMER I WILL BE ATTENDING FLORIDA STATE 
UNIVERSITY MAJORING IN PSYCHOLOGY AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND 
MINORING IN BUSINESS.
MY FUTURE GOALS IS TO OWN MY OWN CHAIN OF DAY CARES.
I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. MEMORIAL 
SCHOLARSHIP AND AGAIN WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH AND EVERY 
ONE OF YOU.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MY LOVING PARENTS, MICHELLE 
HYACINTH AND MICHAEL WIGGINS, BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR 
THEM, I WOULDN'T BE HERE ACCEPTING THE SCHOLARSHIP, SO 
THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS ALENA RANSOM, AND I'M THE DAUGHTER OF MR. JAMES 
AND MRS. JANET RANSOM.
I'M THE RECENTLY GRADUATED SENIOR FROM TAMPA PREP, AND I 
WILL BE ATTENDING EMORY UNIVERSITY THIS FALL IN ATLANTA.
I PLAN TO BE STUDYING BIOLOGY AND PSYCHOLOGY ON A PRE-MED 
TRACK, AND I HOPE TO BECOME AN ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON SOME DAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, OF COURSE, TO THE BOARD AND 
ALSO TO THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP 
COMMITTEE AND TO ALL THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO 
HAVE MADE THIS SCHOLARSHIP POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF US HIGH 
SCHOOL SENIORS TO PURSUE OUR HIGHER EDUCATION.
I AM SO, SO APPRECIATIVE AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE 
THE SCHOLARSHIP AS LONG AS IT CAN BE FACILITATED.
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
>>KEVIN WHITE:  BOARD, MS. JOYCE RUSSELL WOULD LIKE TO COME 
FORWARD AND HAVE A FEW WORDS REGARDING THE SCHOLARSHIP.
MS. RUSSELL.
>>JOYCE RUSSELL:  COMMISSIONERS, I'M JOYCE RUSSELL, 
AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIAISON FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY 
GOVERNMENT, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND EACH OF YOU 
FOR ALLOWING COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS VERY WORTHWHILE 
SCHOLARSHIP EVENT.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
WE WERE EXPECTING FIVE OTHER STUDENTS, AND WE FOUND OUT AT 
THE LAST MINUTE THAT THEY'RE HAVING GRADUATIONS TODAY, AND 
WE PLANNED THIS SO FAR AHEAD, BUT WE WILL SEE THAT THOSE 
STUDENTS RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATIONS AS WELL.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER BECKNER AND COUNTY 
ADMINISTRATOR PAT BEAN WHO ATTENDED OUR RECEPTION IN APRIL 
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE WE ACTUALLY 
ENTERTAINED THE FAMILIES AND 25 STUDENTS WHO RECEIVED THIS 
SCHOLARSHIP, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAND OUT SOME MUGS TO EACH OF YOU THANKING 
YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THIS VERY WORTHWHILE ACTIVITY, AND WE 
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING IT.
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND MS. RUSSELL, I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY ALSO THANK YOU FOR 
YOUR SERVICE AND FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THE PROMOTION OF THE 
SCHOLARSHIP, AND MY PERSONAL CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE 
SCHOLARSHIP WINNERS OUT THERE.
THIS IS JUST SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM TO OUR COMMUNITY, 
AND THE RECIPIENTS SHOULD BE SO PROUD OF THEIR 
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THEM RETURNING TO THIS BOARD AND SEE 
HOW THEY PROGRESS THROUGH THEIR EDUCATION AND TO SEE WHAT 
PLANS LIE AHEAD OF THEM AFTER THEY FINISH THEIR HIGHER 
EDUCATION, SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY.
MS. RUSSELL.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MS. BEAN.
>>PAT BEAN:  YES.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE 
EMPLOYEES OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED, SOME 
OF US FOR MANY YEARS, EVER SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE 
PROGRAM, INTO THIS FUND.
THESE ARE NO COUNTY DOLLARS GOING INTO THIS FUND AT ALL, 
THESE ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEES TAKING MONEY OUT OF THEIR 
PAYCHECKS AND CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FUND.
THERE IS A SECOND WAY THAT MONEY GOES INTO THIS FUND AS 
WELL, AND THAT IS A POLICY THAT WE INSTITUTED THAT IF A 
STAFF MEMBER IS LATE GETTING THEIR ITEM FOR THE AGENDA IN 
FOR THE AGENDA PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO PAY $5 TO GET THE ITEM 
ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT $5, EVERY ONE OF THEM, GOES INTO 
THIS FUND, AND ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WOULD 
LESSEN THE NUMBER OF LAST-MINUTE ITEMS BEING SUBMITTED, BUT 
IT HASN'T, AND I DON'T CARE BECAUSE ALL THAT MONEY GOES TO 
A VERY GOOD PURPOSE, AND I AM VERY PROUD OF THESE YOUNG 
LADIES AND THE OTHERS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP, AND SO 
GOOD LUCK TO BOTH OF YOU.
HOPE EVERYTHING GOES VERY WELL.
THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO SAY.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE, FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
MS. BEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE CHANGES TO THE 
AGENDA.
>>PAT BEAN:  YES, I WILL.
FIRST OF ALL, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED 
AS REQUIRING BOARD CONSIDERATION UNDER RULE 13.
F-2, WHICH IS TO REQUEST AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE 
MINORITY AND SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM AND THE VACANT MANAGER 
POSITION.
THAT'S BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
ITEM F-3, SCHEDULED FOR 10:15, IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING 
THE 1890 STRUCTURE ON EGMONT KEY OWNED BY THE TAMPA BAY 
PILOTS ASSOCIATION, AND THAT'S BROUGHT TO THE BOARD BY 
COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
OFF-THE-AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE ITEM B-6, WHICH IS TO APPROVE 
THE FIRST MODIFICATION AGREEMENT FOR GENERAL ENGINEERING 
CONSULTANT SERVICES WITH HNTB CORPORATION FOR THE 
TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
B-7, APPROVING STEVE J. MASON, THE NOMINEE OF COMMISSIONER 
AL HIGGINBOTHAM, AS A MEMBER OF THE HEALTH CARE STUDY 
COMMITTEE.
B-8, APPOINTING MEMBERS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY PANEL 
AND OF THE TECHNICAL RESOURCE GROUP WHO WILL EXAMINE THE 
PROPOSAL BY THE FLORIDA CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL 
GROUP REGARDING CONE RANCH.
B-9, SCHEDULED FOR 11:15, TO RECEIVE A REPORT ON THE 
CURRENT ACTIVITIES OF THE TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DEFERRED FROM 
THE AGENDA.
ITEM A-20, APPROVING AGENCY PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH 
AMERICAN EXPRESS TRAVEL RELATED SERVICES.
WE'RE TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER A COMPARISON OF SOME 
INFORMATION FOR COMMISSIONER FERLITA, AND THAT ITEM'S BEEN 
DEFERRED UNTIL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
ITEM A-24, DENY THE PERMIT REQUEST BY SHANNON BRANTLEY FOR 
THE USE OF BRANDON, MANGO, NORTHDALE, AND GARDENVILLE 
RECREATION CENTER FOR THE PURPOSE OF TEEN DANCES.
THAT ITEM'S BEEN DEFERRED TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED FROM CONSENT FOR 
DISCUSSION.
ITEM A-13, TO REALIGN $38,421 FROM PROGRAM SERVICES TO 
CAPITAL OUTLAY IN THE RYAN WHITE PART "A" MINORITY AIDS 
INITIATIVE, AND THAT'S PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY 
COMMISSIONER WHITE.
THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS REFERRED TO ON HERE, COMMISSIONER 
BECKNER INFORMED ME THIS MORNING THAT IT NO LONGER NEEDS TO 
BE PULLED, SO ITEM A-30 WILL GO BACK ON TO THE CONSENT 
AGENDA.
THEN WE HAVE ITEM A-33.
THIS WAS PULLED BY COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
IT'S THE AWARD FOR BID NUMBER C-0115-09, ROAD CONSTRUCTION 
TO SUNCOAST DEVELOPMENT OF PINELLAS COUNTY.
AND A-36 WAS ALSO PULLED BY COMMISSIONER BECKNER TO AWARD 
FILE NUMBER P-0156-09, SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE OF HELICOPTER 
RENTAL SERVICE TO LANCE AVIATION, INC.
THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR A TIME CERTAIN 
INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING:  10:15, ITEM F-3, DISCUSSION 
REGARDING THE 1890 STRUCTURE ON EGMONT KEY OWNED BY TAMPA 
BAY PILOTS ASSOCIATION.
AT 10:30, B-5, DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT 
COURT AND THE BOARD CONCERNING THE BOARD REQUEST FOR THE 
CLERK TO CONDUCT PERFORMANCE AUDITS FOR THE BOARD.
AT 10:45, ITEM B-4, ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE 
INSURANCE COMMITTEE AND AWARD RFP NUMBER S-0032-09, SELF-
FUNDED OR FULLY-INSURED MEDICAL BENEFITS PROGRAM.
11:00, ITEM G-1, RECEIVE REPORT REGARDING AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING DEPARTMENT STATUS AND HUD FUNDING.
ALSO AT 11:00, ITEM B-1, APPROVE THE RESOLUTION GRANTING 
AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
STABILIZATION PROGRAM.
ITEM B-9 IS AT 11:15, TO RECEIVE REPORT ON THE CURRENT 
ACTIVITIES OF THE TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE.
AND THEN AFTER LUNCH AT 2:00 YOU HAVE D-1, CONDUCT A PUBLIC 
HEARING TO ACCEPT COMMENTS ON THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED FISCAL 
YEAR 2008-2009 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO INCORPORATE THE 
ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE CARRIED OUT UNDER THE COMMUNITY 
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
AND FINALLY AT 2:15 THIS AFTERNOON, YOU HAVE ITEM B-3, 
WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE FY 10-FY 11 OF THE COUNTY 
ADMINISTRATOR'S RECOMMENDED BIENNIAL BUDGET.
THOSE ARE THE CHANGES TO THE AGENDA, MR. CHAIR.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  MOVE THE CHANGES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGES COMMISSIONER 
FERLITA, SECOND COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
NOW THE BOARD WILL GO INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF 
THE AGENDA.
THE BOARD WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS ABOUT ANY ISSUE 
OR CONCERN.
YOUR OPINIONS ARE VALUED IN TERMS OF PROVIDING VALUABLE 
INPUT.
THE BOARD MEMBERS, HOWEVER, REQUEST AT THE SAME TIME WHEN 
YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED 
PERSONALLY AGAINST A COMMISSIONER OR STAFF MEMBER BUT 
RATHER THE ISSUES.
WE'VE SET ASIDE 45 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
SPEAK CLEARLY IN THE MICROPHONE.
EACH PERSON WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.
THE FIRST THREE SPEAKERS THIS MORNING ARE DONALD SHINGS, 
JOYCE NEWNAM.
GOOD MORNING, MR. SHINGS.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS DONALD SHINGS.
I LIVE AT 1105 OPAL LANE, SUN CITY CENTER.
MY APPEARANCE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS MY ROLE AS THE CORPORATE 
SECRETARY AND DIRECTOR OF THE SUN CITY CENTER COMMUNITY 
ASSOCIATION, CONSISTING OF 11,000 RESIDENTS LIVING IN A 
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHICH HAS EXISTED SINCE 1973.
ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT ED BARNES WANTS TO ME TO EXPRESS HIS 
REGRETS FOR NOT BEING IN FRONT OF YOU IN PERSON.
ON JUNE 1st, 2009, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE SUN CITY 
CENTER COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ADOPTED THE FOLLOWING 
RESOLUTION:  QUOTE, WHEREAS, AN UNSAFE CONDITION EXISTS 
RELATIVE TO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF STORM DRAINS AND 
SIDEWALKS IN SUN CITY CENTER; AND WHEREAS, AN UNSAFE DESIGN 
HAS CONTRIBUTED TO INJURIES TO WALKERS ALONG SUN CITY 
CENTER SIDEWALK; AND WHEREAS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE 
TRIPPED AND FALLEN INTO THESE UNSAFE DRAINS WHILE ENTERING 
AND LEAVING THEIR AUTOMOBILES; AND WHEREAS, HANDICAPPED 
INDIVIDUALS USING THESE UNSAFE SIDEWALKS ARE IN DANGER OF 
HAVING WALKERS AND WHEELCHAIRS TIP INTO THESE DRAINS, 
THEREBY CAUSING SERIOUS INJURY; AND WHEREAS, THE SUN CITY 
CENTER COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION HAS DISCUSSED THE SUN CITY 
CENTER INLET RETROFIT PROGRAM WITH MEMBERS OF THE 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC STAFF.
THEREFORE, THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND 
THE 11,000 MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION SUPPORT 
AND RECOMMEND THE INCLUSION OF THE SUN CITY CENTER STORM 
INLET RETROFIT PROGRAM IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BUDGET, 
UNQUOTE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONERS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MR. SHINGS.
APPRECIATE IT.
JOYCE NEWNAM, WESLEY BAILEY, AND TOM KRUMREICH.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JOYCE NEWNAM, AND I LIVE AT 1524 PORTSMOUTH LAKE 
DRIVE, BRANDON, AND I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO EXPRESS MY 
EXTREME CONCERN IN THE SALE OF CONE RANCH TO PRIVATE 
COMPANIES, AND I WISH THAT IT -- AND I BEG YOU TO PLEASE 
CONSIDER IT TO STAY UNDER THE ELAP PROGRAM.
IT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE, AND IT DOES HAVE PRECIOUS 
WILDLIFE AND WATERS THAT ARE SO PRECIOUS TO OUR NEEDS AND 
OUR FUTURE NEEDS, AND THAT IS MY REAL CONCERN IS THE FUTURE 
WATER.
IT CURRENTLY IS OWNED, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BY HILLSBOROUGH 
COUNTY WATER AND ELAPP, AND I WISH IT TO REMAIN THAT WAY.
I HAVE A CONTACT WHO LIVES ON KNIGHTS GRIFFITH ROAD AND 
FRAZIER LANE IN PLANT CITY.
SHE IS CURRENTLY WITNESSING BIG TRUCKS GOING IN THERE, 
HEARING THE CHAINSAWS.
THEY ARE LOGGING.
THEY ARE TAKING HUGE, HUGE TRUCKS OF TREES OUT OF THERE, 
AND -- WITH NO EXPLANATION.
THEE CAN'T GET AN EXPLANATION.
THESE TRUCKS ARE MARKED AVON PARK, AND I THINK THERE SHOULD 
BE MORE TRANSPARENCY WHY THIS IS GOING ON NOW, ESPECIALLY 
IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BEING CONSIDERED 
FOR SALE TO THESE PRIVATE INVESTORS.
I JUST THINK THAT THE COUNTY -- PEOPLE -- TAXPAYERS ARE 
OWED AND EXPLANATION WHY THEY'RE TAKING THESE TREES OUT AND 
THE PRECIOUS, YOU KNOW, WILDLIFE ARE RUNNING FOR THEIR 
LIVES LITERALLY.
PLEASE DON'T -- DON'T LET THIS PRECIOUS 12,800 ACRES OF 
LAND BE SOLD TO PRIVATE COMPANIES.
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MS. NEWNAM.
COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
[APPLAUSE]
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  YEAH.
ON THE ISSUE OF THE TREES AND THE HARVESTING THERE, THERE'S 
A PRESCRIBED MAINTENANCE TAKING OUT THE DISEASED TREES, AND 
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WORKED ON.
THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THAT, AND IF 
YOU'D CONTACT MY OFFICE, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON 
WHAT'S TAKING PLACE WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE DISEASED TREES.
>>KEN HAGAN:  AND I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE THE DEPARTMENT OF 
FORESTRY WHO'S DOING IT.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT WE CAN PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE 
OVERSEEING IT.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
THANK YOU.
WESLEY BAILEY, TOM KRUMREICH, AND PAM CLOUSTON.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS WESLEY BAILEY.
I RESIDE AT 15012 HIGHWAY 301 IN THONOTOSASSA.
I STAND ALSO TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN REGARDING THE CONE RANCH 
DEAL.
FIRST OFF, CONSIDERING THE CURRENT REAL ESTATE MARKET, THIS 
SEEMS LIKE AN ESPECIALLY BAD TIME TO BE SELLING OFF 
TAXPAYERS' ASSETS.
SECONDLY, I BELIEVE THAT BY SELLING OFF CONE RANCH, 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WILL LOSE THE OPTION OF USING THAT 
PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE FOR -- AS A WETLANDS MITIGATION 
BANK.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY MIGHT ACTUALLY 
FACE A SITUATION IN THE FUTURE WHERE THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE 
ADDITIONAL LAND TO DO WETLANDS MITIGATION; HOWEVER, IF THE 
COUNTY SINCERELY BELIEVES THAT THEY MUST SELL THIS 
PROPERTY, I URGE YOU TO SELL IT TO ELAPP.
MARIELLA SMITH PERSONALLY TOLD ME THAT ELAPP IS VERY MUCH 
INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING THIS PROPERTY AND THAT THEY DO HAVE 
THE FUNDING TO DO SO.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF IT WEREN'T OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ALREADY OWNED THE PROPERTY, ELAPP WOULD 
HAVE MOVED A LONG TIME AGO TO ACQUIRE IT, BUT THEY FELT 
THAT BEING OWNED BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IT WAS NOT 
NECESSARY FOR THEM TO MOVE QUICKLY TO ACQUIRE THAT 
PROPERTY, IT WAS, THEY THOUGHT, SAFE FOR THE TIME.
LASTLY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT SELLING PROPERTY TO DEVELOPERS 
WITH THE PROMISE OF NO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT REMINDS ME OF THE 
PARABLE OF THE SCORPION AND THE FROG, WHICH I'M NOT GOING 
TO RELATE TO YOU BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO -- IF YOU'RE NOT 
FAMILIAR WITH IT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO -- YOU MIGHT WANT TO 
LOOK INTO THAT.
AND AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, CREATING SIX PRIVATE HOMESITES 
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MONITORED IN PERPETUITY TO PREVENT 
ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS WITH THE WETLANDS AND SO FORTH IS 
JUST NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE.
AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE TRACK OF 
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE JUST SIMPLY ISN'T SUCH A THING 
AS AN ABSOLUTELY ETERNAL IRONCLAD COVENANT THAT CAN 
GUARANTEE FUTURE OWNERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BACK OUT OF 
THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND PURSUE FUTURE 
DEVELOPMENT.
ONLY ELAPP CAN DO THAT.
CONE RANCH IS A VERY IMPORTANT AQUIFER RECHARGE AREA THAT 
ADDS CONSIDERABLE WATER RESOURCES TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, 
AND IF RESTORED, IT CAN ADD EVEN MORE.
PLEASE CONSIDER PUBLIC LANDS SHOULD BE MANAGED FOR PUBLIC 
GOOD, NOT SOLD OFF FOR PRIVATE FOR-PROFIT INTERESTS FOR THE 
FUTURE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MR. BAILEY.
TOM KRUMREICH, PAM CLOUSTON, SIDNEY MORGAN.
WELCOME, SIR.
>> HI.
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
MY NAME IS TOM KRUMREICH.
I'M HERE -- I LIVE AT 7009 NORTH WHITTIER STREET HERE IN 
TAMPA.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING FLORIDA CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK, AND 
WE'RE THE STATE'S LARGEST AND OLDEST STATE-BASED 
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSUMER GRASS-ROOTS ORGANIZATION.
FCAN OPPOSES THE SALE OF THE CONE RANCH PROPERTY TO ANY 
ENTITY OTHER THAN THROUGH ELAPP ACQUISITION.
WITH THE COUNTY EXPERIENCING TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES DUE TO 
THE CURRENT RECESSION AND SUBSEQUENT REDUCTION IN REVENUES 
DUE TO PROPERTY DEVALUATIONS, IT'S VERY TEMPTING TO 
CONSIDER SELLING THIS PROPERTY TO GROUPS WHO MAY NOT HAVE 
THE BEST ENVIRONMENTAL INTENTIONS FOR THE USE OF THE 
PROPERTY.
THE APPROVAL FOR SALE TO ELAPP HAS BEEN GRANTED FOR YEARS 
WITH THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION NOT TO DO SO MADE BY A 
COMMITTEE WHOSE OPINION REFLECTED THE MISTAKEN BELIEF THAT 
SINCE IT WAS ALREADY OWNED BY THE COUNTY THAT IT WOULD BE 
ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTED.
OVER THE YEARS SINCE THEN THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ATTEMPTS BY 
DEVELOPERS TO TRY TO BUY THIS, SO VOTERS LAST NOVEMBER 
APPROVED UP TO $200 MILLION FOR ELAPP PURCHASES, AND OUR 
BOND RATING IN THE COUNTY IS A AAA, SO THERE'S REALLY NO 
REAL BURDEN OR EXCUSE FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE -- TO NOT BE 
PURCHASED WITH ELAPP FUNDS.
THE FUTURE OF THIS ENVIRONMENTALLY SIGNIFICANT LAND IS IN 
YOUR HANDS, AND PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND SELL IT ONLY 
THROUGH ELAPP PURCHASE.
THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR TIME CONSIDERATION.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
PAM CLOUSTON, SIDNEY MORGAN, JOE ROBINSON.
WELCOME.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU.
PAM CLOUSTON, 1621 THOMPSON ROAD.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF R-LAND.
BEFORE I GO INTO CONE RANCH -- AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT'S 
WHY I'M HERE -- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SENATE BILL 360 
THAT WAS JUST SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE 2010 REFERENDUM THAT WE ARE HOPING TO 
PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR TRANSIT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING 
TAXPAYERS TO FURTHER TAX THEMSELVES FOR TRANSPORTATION, BUT 
THIS SIGNING GIVES DEVELOPERS A FREE PASS, AND I THINK THAT 
WE ALL IN THIS COUNTY NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT 
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SITUATION.
WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON THIS BECAUSE COMING DOWN THE PIKE REAL 
FAST, I JUST CAN SEE IT ALL COMING FORWARD.
I HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS ABOUT CONE RANCH.
WHO EXACTLY IS FCEG?
WHAT'S THE PROPERTY WORTH?
DOES ELAPP HAVE THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL?
HOW DOES THE NATURE CONSERVANCY FIGURE INTO THIS AND WHAT 
DO THEY HAVE TO GAIN FROM IT?
WHO IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY DID 
FCEG TALK TO?
WHAT ARE THE EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS ON THIS PROPERTY?
IF IT BELONGS TO WATER RESOURCES, HOW CAN THE COUNTY SELL 
IT?
WHICH OF THESE PARTNERSHIPS CAN BE TERMINATED AND WHICH 
CANNOT?
HOW MUCH MONEY IS FCEG GOING TO MAKE ON THIS DEAL?
WHAT'S THE PROPERTY COSTING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RIGHT NOW?
SHOULD THE PROPERTY BE SOLD TO ONE OR MORE INVESTORS, COULD 
THOSE DIVIDE THOSE PARCELS AGAIN?
WOULD THERE BE A GUARANTEE THAT THE REMAINING 800 ACRES 
WOULD BE USED FOR A PASSIVE PARK, LIKE A NATURE PRESERVE 
AND NOT A SPORTS PARK?
CAN THERE BE A GUARANTEE THAT NO BUILDING ON ANY OF THESE 
PARCELS WILL BE NO MORE THAN 400 SQUARE FEET?
WHAT IS THE EXACT PROPOSED TRANSACTION STRUCTURE OF THIS?
COULD THESE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS BECOME A WETLAND 
MITIGATION BANK, AND IF SO, WHY WOULDN'T HILLSBOROUGH 
COUNTY WANT TO MAKE DOLLARS ON THAT?
IS THERE ALREADY A BUYER OR BUYERS LINED UP?
WOULD HUNTING BE ALLOWED ON ANY OF THE CONSERVED AREAS?
WHEN DID THIS PROPOSAL BEGIN?
WHO CURRENTLY HAS ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY AND WHO ARE THOSE 
USING THE PROPERTY FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES?
DOES THE COUNTY NOT HAVE STAFF CAPABLE OF PUTTING TOGETHER 
THIS TYPE OF DEAL?
AND WHY DO WE EVEN WANT TO DO THIS?
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU.
I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT ALL.
REFER THIS OVER TO STAFF TO WORK ON PROVIDING MS. CLOUSTON 
THE ANSWERS.
WE WOULD ALSO LIKE THAT TO BE A TOPIC AT EITHER THE FIRST 
PANEL'S MEETING OR SUBSEQUENT MEETING AFTERWARD AS WELL.
ALL VALID POINTS THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.
OKAY.
NEXT THREE SPEAKERS, SIDNEY MORGAN, JOE ROBINSON, VIVIAN 
BACCA.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
>> GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, 
ADMINISTRATOR BEAN, AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS SIDNEY MORGAN.
I'M THE MARKET PRESIDENT FOR HUMANA, AND MY ADDRESS IS 5401 
WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33609.
SINCE MY TIME WITH HUMANA, I'VE GAINED A GREAT APPRECIATION 
FOR THE COMMITMENT HUMANA HAS TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND 
OUR COMMUNITY.
HUMANA EMPLOYS MORE THAN 2,000 PEOPLE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA 
WITH THE VAST MAJORITY WORKING RIGHT HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH 
COUNTY.
MOST OF THEM ARE AT OUR SOUTHEASTERN CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS 
RIGHT OFF KENNEDY AND AT OUR OPERATIONS CENTER IN NETPARK.
OUR CENTRAL FLORIDA LEADERSHIP TEAM ACTUALLY LIVES IN 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO INCLUDE OUR SOUTHEASTERN CEO FOR ALL 
OF HUMANA.
HUMANA IS PART OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO REPORT ON THE STATUS OF OUR 
HISTORICALLY SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP.
FOR THE PAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS WE'VE BEEN HONORED TO 
SERVE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES BY 
PROVIDING HEALTH CARE SOLUTIONS AND WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP 
WITH COUNTY STAFF TO MANAGE EMPLOYEES' BENEFIT DOLLARS IN A 
FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER.
LAST YEAR THE COMMISSION APPROVED AN RFP TO SEEK THE BEST 
SOLUTIONS TO PROVIDE HIGH-QUALITY HEALTH INSURANCE TO 
COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES:  RFP LAID OUT A 
SELECTION AND RANKING PROCESS FOR BOTH SELF-INSURED AND 
FULLY INSURED PLANS.
ON BOTH SOLUTIONS WE ARE PROUD TO REPORT THAT HUMANA 
RECEIVED THE MOST POINTS AND SCORED THE HIGHEST RANKINGS.
TODAY I MUST REPORT THAT ALTHOUGH HUMANA RECEIVED THE MOST 
POINTS AND SCORED THE HIGHEST RANKINGS, WE HAVE NOT 
RECEIVED THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP 
WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS OUTLINED IN THE RFP.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, HUMANA IS HONORED TO PROVIDE HEALTH 
INSURANCE SOLUTIONS TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL 
DISTRICT, CITY OF TAMPA, AND THE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING WITH 
THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE BELIEVE THAT AFTER A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW WHICH 
CONSIDERED OUR REFERENCES AND OUR ACTUAL PERFORMANCE WITH 
THE COUNTY, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE CONSIDERED ALL THE 
OPTIONS AND OFFERED THE BEST GUIDANCE THROUGH THEIR SCORING 
AND RANKING, PLACING HUMANA AS THE NUMBER ONE CHOICE.
TODAY WE ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE RFP PROCESS AND 
THE RESULTING SCORING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, AT HUMANA IT'S OUR DESIRE TO 
CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP FOR YEARS TO COME.
>>MARK SHARPE:  THANK YOU, SIR.
JOE ROBINSON, VIVIAN BACCA, AND MARCELLA OSTEEN.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS JOE ROBINSON.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE NAACP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIR, 
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS A-15 AND F-2.
I WOULD PREFER TO WAIT ON F-2, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY 
WHAT I GOT TO SAY ON IT NOW.
ON ITEM A-15, WHICH DEALS WITH APPROVAL OF A POLICY WITH 
THE UNION, I'M MORE PARTICULARLY HERE ABOUT THE HR 614 
RETENTION POINT CALCULATION METHOD AND THE DISCIPLINARY 
FAIRNESS DEALING WITH 6.06 HR RULE.
HAVING RECENTLY GONE THROUGH A GRIEVANCE PROCESS HERE IN 
THE COUNTY FOR ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, HAVING DONE RESEARCH 
ON THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND ITS HANDLING OF 
EMPLOYEES IN FAIRNESS, LET ALONE DUE PROCESS, YOU'VE GOT 
SOME PROBLEMS.
I WILL NOT GET INTO THOSE PROBLEMS TODAY, BUT I WILL BE 
BACK BECAUSE WHEN YOU START LAYING PEOPLE OFF IN THIS HARD 
ECONOMIC TIME AND PEOPLE GOT WRITTEN REPRIMANDS IN THEIR 
FILES THAT CAN'T BE REMOVED BECAUSE THERE IS NO FAIRNESS 
PROCESS, LAWSUITS ARE GOING TO START HAPPENING.
DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINTS ARE GOING TO START HAPPENING.
MOVING ON TO MY NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS F-2 -- AND I WANT TO 
THANK COMMISSIONER WHITE FOR BRINGING THAT UP -- AS THE 
NAACP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIR, I'M MONITORING ALL 
ECONOMIC STIMULUS MONEY, PROJECTS, JOBS, LAYOFFS AS FAR AS 
FAIRNESS, AS FAR AS NONDISCRIMINATION, AND SMALL BUSINESS 
UTILIZATION.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT'S OCCURRING IS THAT AS YOU HAVE 
TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES, DISCRIMINATION AND LACK OF 
OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES INCREASE.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO CUT THE MINORITY BUSINESS MANAGER'S 
POSITION OR TO TAMPER WITH THAT DEPARTMENT.
LEGAL PRECEDENCE HAS BEEN MADE -- THERE'S BEEN LEGAL ISSUES 
WITH THAT WHOLE ISSUE OF SPENDING TAXPAYERS' MONEY FAIRLY 
AND EQUITABLY IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO READ 
TO YOU JUST WHAT THE POSITION THAT MR. SPENCER ALBERT HAD 
THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME.
HE WAS ON MY COMMITTEE.
HE'S NOT THERE.
I THINK PHYLLIS BUSANSKY HAS NOW TAKEN HIS SPOT, BUT WE 
NEED THAT SPOT FILLED BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTRACTS.
YOU SEE $4 MILLION ON THERE TODAY FOR TRANSPORTATION 
MANAGER, FOUR MILLION IN FEES.
HOW MUCH OF THAT WENT TO MINORITY AND SMALL BUSINESSES?
HOW MANY GOALS HAVE BEEN SET ON THESE MAJOR PROJECTS?
WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE PROJECTS, WE'RE STILL GOING TO 
HAVE OPPORTUNITIES.
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO CHECK THEM OR WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK TO 
WHERE WE WERE BECAUSE THE RECORD SHOWS WHEN EVERY PROGRAM 
WAS PUT IN SUNSET -- AND THIS PROGRAM IS SCHEDULED TO BE 
SUNSET IN 2011, SO I'M HERE IN 2009 TO TELL YOU LET'S DON'T 
DO THAT.
THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT TO SEE THAT, SO THE PEOPLE ARE 
GETTING RESTLESS, TIMES ARE GETTING TIGHT, AND I'M HERE TO 
SAY THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THIS MANAGER AND GET THIS THING 
APPOINTED BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE IN THIS DESCRIPTION THAT IT 
COORDINATES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL PROGRAM CHANGES FOR 
CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD AND ENSURES LEGAL PREDICATE UPON 
WHICH THE PROGRAM IS BASED REMAINS VIABLE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON.
THANK YOU, SIR.
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>>KEN HAGAN:  VIVIAN BACCA, MARCELLA OSTEEN, GEORGE 
NIEMANN.
WELCOME, MS. BACCA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
VIVIAN BACCA, 413 EL GRECO DRIVE IN BRANDON.
NOW THAT GOVERNOR CRIST HAS SIGNED SB 360 DESPITE 
OPPOSITION FROM EIGHT COUNTIES, INCLUDING HILLSBOROUGH, I 
ASKED MYSELF WHAT'S NEXT?
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COUNTY JOIN WITH THE OTHER SEVEN 
COUNTIES WHICH OPPOSED SB 360 TO CHALLENGE THE LEGALITY OF 
THIS LAW.
IT TOOK ME LESS THAN 20 MINUTES ON THE INTERNET TO COME UP 
WITH ONE POSSIBLE CHALLENGE.
SECTION 10 OF THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION READS, QUOTE, 
PROHIBITED LAWS:  NO BILL OF A TENDER EX POST FACTO LAW OR 
LAW IMPAIRING THE OBLIGATION OF CONTRACT SHALL BE PASSED, 
UNQUOTE.
SB 360 WOULD APPEAR TO ALLOW DRIs TO GET OUT OF LEGALLY 
ENFORCEABLE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS FOR TRANSPORTATION 
CONCURRENCY.
I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER FLAWS TO BE CHALLENGED.
IF OUR COUNTY CAN AUTHORIZE HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO AID 
IN GETTING FEDERAL STIMULUS DOLLARS, WE CAN AFFORD TO CHIP 
IN TO HIRE A FIRM TO PROTECT THE DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS WE 
ALREADY HAVE DUE TO THE COUNTY UNDER LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE 
CONTRACTS.
IN-HOUSE COUNSEL COULD HELP IN PROCESSING THIS CASE.
WHILE I BELIEVE THIS LAW TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, OUR COUNTY 
MUST PREPARE FOR THE POTENTIAL THAT IT COULD BE UPHELD.
TO THAT END, I URGE YOU TO IMMEDIATELY AUTHORIZE A NEW 
IMPACT FEE STUDY UNDER THE STRICTER BURDENS OF PROOF 
REQUIRED BY SB 360.
IF IT'S TRUE THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT USURP THE LOCAL 
AUTHORITY, THEN I URGE YOU TO USE THAT AUTHORITY TO DEVELOP 
IMPACT FEES WHICH PAY FOR A DEVELOPMENT'S IMPACT ON OUR 
INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING WATER, SEWER, AND ROADWAYS.
IN ADDITION, WE SHOULD LOBBY FOR PROMPT IMPLEMENTATION OF 
MOBILITY FEE GUIDELINES.
THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA COMPLETED A STUDY ON THE MOBILITY 
FEES IN MARCH WHICH IS QUITE COMPREHENSIVE.
WE DO NOT NEED TO SPEND AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS TO STUDY 
THIS TOPIC.
IT'S TIME FOR BOLD PROPOSALS WHICH ALLOW PUBLIC INPUT AND 
SWIFT IMPLEMENTATION.
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MS. BACCA.
COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
>>MARK SHARPE:  I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH MR. ALUOTTO, 
PLANNING AND GROWTH, REGARDING THIS ISSUE AND HOW WE WOULD 
DEAL WITH IT IF THE GOVERNOR DID SIGN.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MR. ALUOTTO IS WORKING NOW ON A 
WHOLE HOST OF OPTIONS AND IS ALSO LOOKING AT THE LEGAL 
ISSUES AS WELL, SO I WOULD JUST REFER THIS OVER TO STAFF 
AND ASK THAT WE ADDRESS THIS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MARCELLA OSTEEN, GEORGE NIEMANN, DAVID 
McCALLISTER.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE -- MARCELLA OSTEEN, P.O. BOX 212, BALM, 
FLORIDA.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT 360, AND I WOULD JUST 
SUGGEST THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN VIV BACCA LOOSE ON THIS 
SUCKER.
IN 20 MINUTES SHE CAN FIND ENOUGH WRONG WITH IT ENOUGH TO 
MAYBE HOLD IT UP, SO I URGE YOU TO GO TO PLAN "B" NOW.
GOVERNOR CHARLIE CRIST HAS MADE IT EASIER -- THIS IS FROM 
THE ST. PETE TIMES -- TO PAVE OVER WHAT'S LEFT OF FLORIDA.
AND I'M SAYING THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT 
KNOW WHAT SENATE BILL 360 EVEN IS.
FYI, IT'S A HORRIBLE, HORRENDOUS DOG OF A BILL.
THE TIMES SAYS, HE JUST MADE IT EASIER TO PAVE OVER WHAT'S 
LEFT OF FLORIDA.
NOT JUST CRIST.
HE'S THE ONE THAT DID NOT VETO IT.
THIS IS ALL OF YOUR SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES WHO VOTED 
YES ON THIS.
HE CLEARLY VALUES OF THE VOICES OF DEVELOPERS AND BIG 
BUSINESS AND THEIR CAMPAIGN CHECKS FOR HIS U.S. SENATE 
CAMPAIGN OVER THEIR CONCERNS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND 
GOVERNMENT -- OVER THE CONCERNS OF ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND 
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
EXCUSE ME, I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES.
THIS IS HARD TO READ.
WITH A STROKE OF A PEN, THE GOVERNOR REMOVED THE MOST 
POWERFUL TOOLS TO MANAGE GROWTH, REQUIRE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, 
AND PREVENT OVERDEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL OF WHAT 360 IS.
IT'S VERY BAD, HORRIBLE.
FOR DEVELOPERS CHRISTMAS CAME ON THE FIRST DAY OF JUNE.
FLORIDIANS WILL BE PAYING FOR IT FOR YEARS.
NOW, THE BOCC DID WRITE A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR URGING HIM 
TO VETO THIS, AND IT DID PROVE TO BE TOO LITTLE TOO LATE, 
BUT I'M NOT PUTTING THE WHOLE ONUS ON THE BOCC, NO.
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE ONUS ON THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YES 
FOR THIS.
IN OUR HILLSBOROUGH DELEGATION, THOSE PEOPLE ARE -- AND IT 
SADDENS ME TO REPORT THAT ALL EIGHT OF OUR REPUBLICAN 
REPRESENTATIVES VOTED YES TO THIS BILL.
THEY ARE -- WALL OF SHAME HERE -- AMBLER, BURGIN, CULP, 
GALVANO, GLORIOSO, HOMAN, McKEEL, AND REAGAN.
THAT IS ALL EIGHT OF OUR REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVES FROM 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
THE THREE DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED NO WE SAY THANK YOU TO.
THEY ARE REED, ROUSON, AND SCIONTI.
SO THANK YOU TO THEM.
MOVING ON TO THE SENATE.
VICTOR CRIST, REPUBLICAN, VOTED YES FOR THIS DOG OF A BILL.
THE TWO DEMOCRAT SENATORS, JUSTICE AND JOYNER, VOTED NO.
THANK YOU TO THEM.
NOW, THE ONLY REPUBLICAN IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO VOTED 
NO ON THIS WAS GUESS WHO, SENATOR RONDA STORMS.
THANK YOU, RONDA.
THANK YOU FOR BEING A STAND-UP WOMAN, AND I MISS YOU UP 
HERE ON THIS DAIS.
SO ALL THE REPUBLICANS EXEMPT RONDA VOTED FOR THE 
DEVELOPMENT -- THE DEVELOPERS, AND NONE OF THE DEMOCRATS 
DID.
WHAT DOES THIS TELL ME?
AND I'M A REPUBLICAN.
DOES IT MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE A REPUBLICAN?
NO.
IT MAKES ME ASHAMED THAT THEY ARE REPUBLICANS.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY FORM A NEW PARTY, THE PARTY 
OF SATAN MAYBE, BECAUSE THEY'VE SOLD THEIR SOUL TO THE 
DEVIL AND HAVE BOWED DOWN TO THE GOLDEN CALF, NOT THE 
GOLDEN CALF IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, BUT THE GOLDEN BULLDOZER, 
OR BETTER YET THE GOLDEN CHECKBOOK --
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MS. OSTEEN.
>> -- FOR THEIR FUTURE FAT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MS. OSTEEN.
>> HAVE I HEARD THE BUZZER YET?
>>KEN HAGAN:  YES, MA'AM, ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.
>> OH, I'M SORRY.
OKAY.
YOU GET WHERE I'M GOING.
I'M HAVING A HISSY FIT.
IT'S GLENN BECK DUCT TAPE WEEK.
THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
>>KEN HAGAN:  GEORGE NIEMANN, DAVID McCALLISTER, AND TERRY 
FLOTT.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
GEORGE NIEMANN, UNITED CITIZENS ACTION NETWORK, DOVER, 
FLORIDA.
I THINK SOME OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY HAS ALREADY BEEN 
SAID.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SENATE BILL 360, WHICH IS A DISASTER, 
GUTTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD -- WHAT LITTLE 
GROWTH MANAGEMENT WE'VE HAD.
THIS GUTS IT ENTIRELY.
AND I WANT TO ADDRESS COMMENTS TO I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY OF 
THIS BOARD.
AS SOMEONE MENTIONED BEFORE, IT WAS TOO LITTLE TOO LATE, 
AND I'M SURE WHEN THIS COMES UP FOR DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING 
TO HERE THE EXCUSES.
I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THEM.
SOME OF THE EXCUSES MAY BE, DON'T WORRY, TALLAHASSEE WILL 
FIX IT IN THE NEXT SECTION -- THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, 
ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH 
THIS BILL.
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR THAT.
OR WE'LL HEAR DON'T WORRY, EVERY CLOUD USUALLY HAS A SILVER 
LINING, THERE MIGHT BE SOME BENEFIT TO THIS BILL, EVEN 
THOUGH I CAN'T SEE IT FROM WHAT I'VE READ.
SOME OF THE OTHER ONES MIGHT BE -- OH, THIS IS -- THIS IS 
MY FAVORITE, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT REPRESENTATIVE 
GLORIOSO USED WHEN HE WAS EXPLAINING TO HIS CONSTITUENTS 
HOW HE SOLD THEM OUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF DEVELOPERS.
HE SAYS, THIS BILL HAD A LOT IN IT THAT I DIDN'T LIKE, BUT 
ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S GOT A DOOZIE OF A PROVISION THAT I 
KNOW YOU WILL ALL LOVE.
IT'S GOING TO ENABLE YOU TO USE OTHER THAN ST. AUGUSTINE 
GRASS IN DEED-RESTRICTED SUBDIVISIONS.
WHO NEEDS ROADS WHEN WE CAN HAVE BAHIA GRASS?
[LAUGHTER]
OH, GOD.
WELL, LET'S GET BEYOND THE EXCUSES BECAUSE I KNOW -- I'VE 
GOT A LIST OF THEM.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, I CAN PASS THIS AROUND AND YOU 
CAN TAKE YOUR PICK.
BUT LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW WITH THIS BILL?
HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD?
I THINK MYSELF AND MANY OTHER CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE PAYING 
ATTENTION, WE WANT ASSURANCES FROM THIS BOARD.
WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE -- AND I HATE TO USE THIS TERM.
WE'D LIKE A COMMITMENT THAT THIS BOARD WILL NOT SHIFT THE 
COST OF GROWTH OFF ON TO TAXPAYERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE 
APPROPRIATE IMPACT FEES.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM.
SO LET'S WORK ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ASSESSING IMPACT 
FEES.
AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO START -- WE LOVE TO DO COMMITTEES -- 
START A COMMITTEE AND MAKE VIV BACCA THE CHAIRPERSON.
WE'LL CALL IT THE IMPACT FEE TASK FORCE.
AND WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DEADLY AFRAID OF HAPPENING IS ABOUT 
TO HAPPEN.
THIS IMPLEMENTATION -- THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL IS 
GOING TO PUSH HOMETOWN DEMOCRACY OVER THE TOP.
IT'S SAD, BUT IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CITIZENS WILL HAVE 
TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WHEN HOMETOWN DEMOCRACY IS 
APPROVED, I'LL BE THANKING YOU FOR DOING NOTHING.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MR. NIEMANN.
DAVID McCALLISTER, TERRY FLOTT, MARILYN SMITH.
WELCOME, SIR.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
DAVID McCALLISTER, P.O. BOX 7343, WESLEY CHAPEL, FLORIDA.
TODAY, JUNE 3rd, IS THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE FIRST 
RAISING OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG AT 
THE CONFEDERATE MEMORIAL PARK SITE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
ALSO ON THE FLORIDA STATE HOLIDAY OF PRESIDENT JEFFERSON 
DAVIS' BIRTHDAY.
NOW, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK THEN, THERE WAS A LOT OF 
UPSETEDNESS AND UPSET FOLKS WITH DIRE PREDICTIONS, THAT IT 
WOULD MAKE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LOOK BAD, THAT IT WOULD 
UPSET SUPER BOWL VISITORS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WELL, NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED.
IN FACT, THE PARK HAS BOOSTED TOURISM AND CAUSED POSITIVE 
RECOGNITION FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AS EVIDENCED BY THE 
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE DEDICATION AND THE 
POSITIVE MEDIA PUBLICITY ATTENDING IT.
THE ONLY NEGATIVE THING I CAN THINK OF WAS THAT ONE 
CANDIDATE FOR THE COMMISSION TRIED TO USE THE FLAG AS A 
DIVISIVE ISSUE IN UNFORTUNATELY TARGETED ADVERTISING.
IN FACT, I FIND IT IRONIC THAT IN THE SENSE THAT POLITICS 
MAKE STRANGE BEDFELLOWS THAT OVER IN ST. PETERSBURG THERE'S 
A FLAP OVER ANOTHER FLAG, THE GAY PRIDE RAINBOW FLAG, AND 
OVER THERE THE ACLU IS READY TO SUPPORT IT AS IT SUPPORTED 
THE CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG, BUT THE OUTCOME SHOULD BE THE 
SAME, TO RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE ALL PERSONS AND THEIR 
CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
SO REALLY I'M HERE TO ASK YOU-ALL -- AS WE, THE SONS OF 
CONFEDERATE VETERANS, WORK ON COMPLETING THE PARK WITH 
MONUMENTS AND HISTORICAL PLAQUES, I ASK THE COMMISSION TO 
RETURN TO ITS FORMER CUSTOM OF RECOGNIZING AND SUPPORTING 
SOUTHERN AND CONFEDERATE HISTORY AND HERITAGE AND THE 
HOLIDAYS AND ANNIVERSARIES AS THEY ARISE IN THE YEARLY 
CYCLE ON AN EQUAL BASIS WITH OTHERS AND SUPPORT 
INCORPORATION AND PARTICIPATION IN REGULAR PUBLIC CIVIC 
ACTIVITIES FOR SOUTHERN HERITAGE AND CONFEDERATE HERITAGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, SIR.
TERRY FLOTT, MARILYN SMITH, AND THE LAST SPEAKER THIS 
MORNING MARK KLUTHO.
WELCOME, MS. FLOTT.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I WAS HERE TO SPEAK TO B-8 AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER ISSUES 
THAT I THINK HAVE BEEN PRETTY WELL COVERED ON 360, SO I 
WON'T BORE YOU WITH THAT ONE, BUT B-8 ON CONE RANCH THERE'S 
AN ISSUE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED SO FAR THAT I KNOW 
ABOUT, AND THAT IS THE TRANSPARENCY OF THIS PROCESS AS IT 
RELATES TO HTV BROADCASTING AND AVAILABILITY ON DEMAND FOR 
CITIZENS WHO MAKE USE OF THAT OPTION WHO AREN'T ABLE TO 
ATTEND MEETINGS.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT TODAY WHEN YOU'RE APPOINTING YOUR 
APPOINTEES IN A FORMAL MANNER THAT YOU ALSO IN A FORMAL 
MANNER TAKE A VOTE ACROSS THE BOARD THAT DIRECTS STAFF TO 
MAKE ALL THE ARRANGEMENTS NECESSARY SO THIS HAPPENS FROM 
DAY ONE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROCESS WITH THE STIMULUS COMMITTEE.
WE HAD TO HAVE A FLURRY OF E-MAILS FLYING BACK AND FORTH 
AND AROUND AND ABOUT BEFORE WE HAD IT BROADCAST, AND WE 
HAVEN'T HAD THAT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE EITHER.
SO I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH ISSUE FOR YOU ALL THAT 
YOU REQUIRE THAT TO OCCUR AND MAKE THAT KNOWN TODAY CLEARLY 
AS YOU TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
THE OTHER POINT -- AND I WOULD THANK YOU FOR THAT ALSO.
THE OTHER POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE -- AND I THINK -- I 
THINK PAT BEAN SAID IT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE REALLY IS 
A $5 LATE FEE THAT YOU GUYS PAY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AGENDA 
ITEMS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE USING THAT IT SEEMS A 
LITTLE MORE LATELY TO PUT THINGS LATE ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S IRONIC THAT WE WERE -- HAD THE SAME ISSUE BECAUSE CONE 
RANCH WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE 
WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT WE ALL HAD IT ON OUR AGENDA 
BASED ON YOUR LAST MEETING, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT 
HAPPENS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS YOUR GENERAL PUBLIC, WHO 
THERE'S FAR MORE OUT THERE THAN I THINK YOU REALIZE THAT 
PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR AGENDAS, THEY ASSUME THAT IT'S NOT 
GOING TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT, SO, THEREFORE, THEY'RE NOT TUNING 
IN IF THAT'S THEIR ONE THING OR THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN TO 
SPEAK.
SO THERE IS -- WHILE YOU'RE DOING A GOOD THING, I WOULD ASK 
THAT YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND DONATE THE $5 IF YOU SO FEEL TO 
DO THAT AND -- AND WORK HARD TO GET THESE ITEMS ON THE 
AGENDA IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM ON 
THE AGENDA.
THEY WERE PROGRAMMED TO BE HERE.
ANOTHER ONE IS THE STIMULUS COMMITTEE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE 
FLOATED OFF SOMEWHERE.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE A REPORT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S SCRAMBLING BECAUSE OF THE 
APPROVAL OF 360.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST -- IT CONCERNS ME WHEN WE SEE THE 
ADDENDUM GROWING LARGER THAN THE AGENDA IS ITSELF, SO THANK 
YOU VERY MUCH.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MRS. FLOTT.
MARILYN SMITH, THEN MARK KLUTHO.
WELCOME.
>> BONGIORNO.
MARILYN SMITH, WHO THE LOTS OF THESE PEOPLE, ONE, TWO, 
THREE, FOUR -- WE JUST BARELY -- JUST A MINUTE.
I'M NOT READY YET.
WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP BARELY A QUORUM.
OH, THANK YOU, JIMMY.
COMING BACK, HUH?
THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY LET ALONE EVER 
SEE ME.
YOU MIGHT GET YOUR WISH IN A LONG TIME FROM NOW.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M SURE WITH SB 360 THAT RALPH HUGHES IS 
PROBABLY REALLY HAPPY.
AND NUMBER TWO, LOOKING AT WHO YOU PUT ON THE COMMITTEE FOR 
THE CONE RANCH, I'M GLAD NO ONE PUT ME ON THERE BECAUSE YOU 
ARE GOING TO BE GUIDED BY A LOT OF IGNORANCE.
DEE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING, BUT SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT 
THE POLLUTION THAT YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW ABOUT EITHER.
THERE'S POLLUTION ON THERE, AND THERE WAS LAND SWAPPED ON 
THERE TOO, BUT YOU DON'T NEED ME.
THAT'S FINE.
HIDE IT.
NOW, B-1, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS GIVING MORE POWER TO PEOPLE 
LIKE VALMARIE TO GIVE $50,000 AWAY WITHOUT COMING -- WELL, 
49-9 -- WITHOUT COMING TO THIS BOARD.
THE WHOLE REASON ON B-1 FOR PUTTING THIS ONE, TWO, THREE, 
DIRECTOR, UTILITY, AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT THE 50, 100, 
AND 200 IS SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO 
SEE THAT ON THE BOARD.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROTECTION.
WHERE DO YOU THINK THE OVERSIGHT IS GOING TO COME FROM?
NOT YOU GUYS.
YOU DON'T EVEN READ YOUR MATERIAL MOST OF THE TIME, AND IF 
YOU DO, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
SO WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION -- HEY, ROSE, I KNOW WHAT 
I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I WOULD SAY TO YOU YOU BETTER 
DELAY THIS.
YOU BETTER DELAY B-1.
WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEM ENOUGH MONEY.
WE STILL GOT HOWIE GIVING ADVICE.
THIS IS MR. $2 MILLION, THEN $800,000, AND NOW LET ME TELL 
YOU SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT MR. HOWIE.
MR. HOWIE WAS ENGAGED IN AN ANONYMOUS -- ANONYMOUS CALL, 
WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE FROM MARIE DOLPHIN OVER AT THE CITY 
SLAMMING OR RUINING OR TRYING TO RUIN THE REPUTATION OF 
MARGARET TAGLIARINI BY SAYING HER BROTHER-IN-LAW WAS 
GETTING MORTGAGE BUSINESS FROM HER.
SHE DOESN'T HAVE A BROTHER-IN-LAW.
YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NAMED TAGLIARINI AROUND HERE?
THAT'S HOWIE CARROLL, HOWIE CARROLL IN MARCH OF '08.
NOW, WE HAVE HERE IN MARCH OF '09 JACK CARLISLE GOING OUT 
AND -- ONE OF THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT, OH, WAS SUCH A 
WONDERFUL AUTHORITY AND SAID TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT SOME 
PEOPLE THAT SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, MS. MARIE PHILLIPS.
SHE GOT $11,000 RELEASED TO HER WITHOUT AN INSPECTION ON A 
REHAB PROJECT.
NOW JACK IS TRYING TO GET IT BACK.
HOW MANY INTERIM DIRECTORS DO WE NEED OVER AT AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING?
YOU PEOPLE KEEP LETTING THEM PUT PEOPLE WHO ARE 
UNQUALIFIED.
THERE'S A GIRL OVER THERE THAT'S BEEN PROMOTED WHO COULDN'T 
PASS HER ACCOUNTING FOR CIVIL SERVICE TWICE, AND NOW SHE'S 
GOT A MANAGEMENT JOB.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MS. SMITH.
>> AND YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY?
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MS. SMITH.
>> PLEASE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THE LAST SPEAKER THIS MORNING MARK KLUTHO.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
>> MARK KLUTHO, 14496 120th AVENUE NORTH, LARGO.
HERE WE HAVE THE NEW GENERAL FOR THE AFGHAN OCCUPATION, THE 
GUY THAT LED THE COVER-UP, THE KILLING OF TILLMAN.
YEAH, IN VIETNAM THEY CALLED IT FRAGY.
IT WASN'T FRIENDLY FIRE.
AND YOU HAD SATURDAY THE HURRICANE THING OVER AT THE MUSEUM 
OF BAD SCIENCE AND INDUSTRY.
I SAW BEAN AND GISPERT OVER THERE BOTH OF THEM SAYING HI TO 
ME LIKE WE WERE FRIENDS.
I'VE CALLED FOR BOTH THEIR RESIGNATION.
THEY'RE BOTH INCOMPETENT.
REMEMBER THE BIG POWWOW AFTER THE 2004 HURRICANES AND THE 
FOOL FROM THE STATE TELLING THE JOKE ABOUT THE BRIDGE UP IN 
THE PANHANDLE FALLING IN THE WATER?
WHY THAT WAS THE SAME COMPANY THAT MADE THAT SEVEN-MILE 
BRIDGE TO THE EVERGLADES.
AND ALL THE FOOLS, GISPERT [MAKING LAUGHING SOUND]
WAIT A MINUTE.
THE COMPANY JUST BID ON THE PLANS PROVIDED BY THE STATE.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE MORONS, THE PROFESSORS, THE 
PRESIDENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY, THE METEOROLOGISTS, THE 
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTORS FROM ALL THE COUNTIES, 
THEY'RE ALL LAUGHING AT THE JOKE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE 
THE SAVIORS.
PEOPLE, IT WON'T HAPPEN.
YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WHO WATCHED THE SHOW LAST NIGHT EARTH 2100.
YEAH, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT DAY, THE EVERGLADES WILL BE 
UNDER WATER.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY, PEOPLE, NOT PRETTY.
THIS BUILDING ALONE, WASTING OVER A QUARTER OF A MILLION 
DOLLARS A YEAR BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THE LIGHTS RIGHT IN 
THE BUILDING.
AND HERE'S HILLSBOROUGH CHILLS OUT, CALLING THE STUPID 
IDIOT RANDY KLINDWORTH A GREEN CZAR.
AND YOU PUT DOORS IN THIS BUILDING, TOOK OUT THE REVOLVING 
DOORS AND PUT IN THE STUPID DOORS THAT MAKE THIS DUMB 
BUILDING EVEN LESS ENERGY EFFICIENT.
BETTER BUILDINGS BY DESIGN.
WE SHAPE OUR BUILDINGS, THEREFORE, THEY SHAPE US, WINSTON 
CHURCHILL, TIME MAGAZINE, 1960.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY FOR THESE CHILDREN OF TODAY.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, MR. KLUTHO.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
COMMISSIONER SHARPE, YOU HAVE A COMMENT?
>>MARK SHARPE:  YES.
WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUE OF 360, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK 
IF MR. ALUOTTO COULD COME BACK AT OUR LAND USE MEETING, IF 
THE BOARD WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT, AND I'M INTERESTED IN 
THE AREAS OF IMPACTS, IMPLICATION OF THE BILL.
THERE ARE THREE AREAS OF THE IMPACT WITH REGARD TO THE 
ISSUES OF DRIs, HOW TO PAY FOR OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENT UNTIL A 
MOBILITY FEE IS ESTABLISHED, ALSO ISSUES REGARDING HEALTH 
AND SAFETY EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE THIS BILL DOES HAVE AN AREA 
REGARDS THE ABILITY TO EXEMPT CERTAIN RULES AND LAWS THAT 
WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE, AND IF WE COULD JUST PUT THAT -
- BRING THAT FORWARD BEFORE OUR NEXT LAND USE MEETING.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE 
CONSENT.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  SO MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER FERLITA, 
SECOND COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>KEN HAGAN:  FIRST ITEM.
>>PAT BEAN:  YES, COMMISSIONERS.
YOUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM F-3.
THIS IS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE 1890 STRUCTURE ON EGMONT 
KEY OWNED BY TAMPA BAY PILOTS ASSOCIATION.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
I AM SURE THAT AS WE DID, SO DID MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES GET 
SOME CALLS FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THE STATUS OR THE 
FUTURE OF THE 1890 STRUCTURE ON EGMONT KEY THAT IS OWNED BY 
THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS ASSOCIATION, SO ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T HAVE 
A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO RESEARCH IT, I PUT IT ON THE 
BOARD'S AGENDA TODAY FOR DISCUSSION.
I HAVE ASKED THAT CAPTAIN AL THOMPSON JOIN US, AND HE 
REPRESENTS THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS ASSOCIATION.
THAT ASSOCIATION OWNS IT.
AS WELL I KNOW THAT JERRY CAMPBELL IS HERE FROM EPC.
AND THIS WAS KIND OF QUICKLY GETTING TOGETHER SOME OF THE 
FACTS SO WE KNOW IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME 
TOGETHER TO DO SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO JUST DEMOLISHING 
IT -- I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR OUR AGENDA, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT 
IF I COULD PERHAPS JUST ASK CAPTAIN THOMPSON TO COME UP FOR 
JUST A BRIEF TIME, AND AL, NOT TO MAKE IT VERY LONG BECAUSE 
TYPICALLY WE DON'T DO THAT, TO LET US KNOW WHAT THEIR SENSE 
IS AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO ASK JERRY CAMPBELL TO COME UP 
AND TELL US WHERE THEY ARE IN THE ASBESTOS PROCESS AND 
APPROVAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT ALONG WITH THE 
FACT THAT THERE IS THE ISSUE OF PERMITTING, AND I 
UNDERSTAND THAT THROUGH MR. ALUOTTO'S OFFICE THAT 
PERMITTING HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED FOR DEMOLITION, BUT I'M 
JUST LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER ABOUT 
DOING SOMETHING WITH THIS, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT 
PERHAPS WOULD END UP UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF A FOUNDATION OR 
SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT IT HAS HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE, BUT OF COURSE, I 
THINK THAT THE -- THE PILOTS ASSOCIATION CONCERN FROM THE 
STANDPOINT OF LIABILITY AND THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES -- SO IF 
IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN --
>>KEN HAGAN:  YES, MA'AM.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  CAPTAIN THOMPSON, IF YOU'LL JUST COME UP 
HERE.
THANK YOU.
WE SPOKE YESTERDAY, AND I THOUGHT PERHAPS IT WOULD BE 
IMPORTANT THAT HE GIVES THEIR SIDE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING 
AND WHY SO THERE'S PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING 
ON.
THANK YOU, SIR.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M CAPTAIN ALLEN L. THOMPSON, U.S. COAST GUARD RETIRED, 
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS 
ASSOCIATION.
WE RESIDE AT 1825 SAHLMAN DRIVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA 33605.
A BRIEF HISTORY.
IN 1882 EGMONT KEY WAS WITHDRAWN FROM PUBLIC DOMAIN AND 
RESERVED FOR MILITARY PURPOSES.
ON FEBRUARY 17th, 1912, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PERMITTED 
THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS ASSOCIATION TO LEASE SEVERAL ACRES OF 
LAND ON EGMONT TO MAINTAIN A LOOKOUT TOWER FOR SHIPS AND 
REST FACILITIES FOR THE PILOTS.
THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS ASSOCIATION PURCHASED THE WOOD FRAME 
STRUCTURE IN QUESTION IN 1920 FROM MS. CECILIA BELGUARD FOR 
A SUM OF $10.
IN 1926 SECRETARY OF WAR APPROVED THE SALE OF LAND OCCUPIED 
BY THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FOR THE SUM 
OF $3,850.
THE SALE WAS COMPLETED ON MARCH 8th, 1928.
ON MARCH 15, 1928, THE COUNTY OF HILLSBOROUGH EXECUTED ITS 
OWN LEASE WITH THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS FOR A PERIOD OF 99 
YEARS TO EXPIRE ON MARCH 8th, 2027.
THIS LEASE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT SAID PROPERTY SHALL NOT 
AT ANY TIME DURING THE CONTINUANCE OF THIS LEASE BE USED BY 
THE LESSEES AND SUCCESSORS IN OFFICE IN ANY MANNER OTHER 
THAN PURPOSES FOR WHICH SAID PREMISES HAS BEEN HEREFORTH 
USED BY SAID PILOTS, IN ESSENCE, FOR CARRYING ON THE 
GENERAL BUSINESS OF PILOTAGE IN TAMPA BAY.
THE TWO-STORY WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE IN QUESTION HAS BEEN 
UTILIZED OVER THE YEARS AS OFFICE SPACE AND AS A REST 
FACILITY.
DURING THE HURRICANE SEASON IN 2004-2005, SECRETARY 
CASTILLE OF DEP SUMMONSED THE VARIOUS PORT DIRECTORS AND 
MARITIME COMMUNITY FROM AROUND THE STATE REGARDING THE 
MOVEMENT OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS INTO TAMPA BAY AND THE REST 
OF THE STATE TO LOOK AT ACHILLES HEELS THAT MIGHT IMPEDE 
THIS PARTICULAR MOVEMENT.
ONE OF THE ACHILLES HEELS AT THAT POINT IN TIME WAS THE 
SUSCEPTIBILITY OF EGMONT KEY TO STORMS.
SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND ASSESSMENT AND 
LOOKING AT OUR FOOTPRINT ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
WE CONTACTED AIR QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL LOCATED IN SEMINOLE, 
FLORIDA, TO CONDUCT A BUILDING MATERIAL SAMPLE AND 
EVALUATION OF ASBESTOS-CONTAINING MATERIAL FOR THE 
RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON THE TWO-STORY FRAME, AND THIS WAS 
DONE ON MARCH 4th, 2009, BY A TRAINED ASBESTOS INSPECTOR, 
AND I HAVE A COPY OF THE REPORT FOR EACH ONE OF THE 
COMMISSIONERS.
THIS FACILITY INSPECTOR PERFORMED A THOROUGH VISUAL 
INSPECTION OF ALL ACCESSIBLE AREAS AND IDENTIFIED TENS 
HOMOGENOUS AREAS OF SUSPECT ASBESTOS-CONTAINING MATERIAL.
THE FACILITY INSPECTOR COLLECTED A TOTAL OF 30 BULK 
MATERIAL SAMPLES AND NINE [INCOMPREHENSIBLE] SUSPECT 
ASBESTOS-CONTAINING MATERIAL IN GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH EPA 
ASBESTOS HAZARDOUS PROTOCOL.
SPECIFICALLY FINDINGS IN REGARD TO THE WHITE EXTERIOR TILE 
SURFACE WAS REPORTED BY AIR QUALITY.
THEY INDICATED THAT THE RESULTS OF OUR EVALUATION AND 
LABORATORY ANALYSIS INDICATED THE PRESENCE OF 
[INCOMPREHENSIBLE] ASBESTOS CONTAINED ON THE EXTERIOR 
SIDING AROUND THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR OF THE FACILITY.
SPECIFIC FINDINGS IN REGARD TO THE SILVER ROOF COATING, 
THEY INDICATED THAT THE RESULTS OF OUR OBSERVATION AND 
LABORATORY ANALYSIS INDICATED THE PRESENCE OF 
[INCOMPREHENSIBLE] ASBESTOS IN THE ENTIRE ROOF SYSTEM.
THEY ALSO INDICATED THAT DEMOLITION MAY CAUSE A DISTURBANCE 
OF THE IDENTIFIED ASBESTOS AND, THEREFORE, SHOULD BE 
REMOVED BY A LICENSED CONTRACTOR PRIOR TO ANY DEMOLITION 
ACTIVITIES.
SHORTLY AFTER THAT POINT IN TIME, WE CONTACTED THE 
ASSOCIATION ATTORNEY, MR. ALLEN VON SPIEGELFELD, OF THE LAW 
FIRM BANKER, LOPEZ & GASSLER TO PROVIDE A LEGAL ANALYSIS ON 
APRIL 21st, 2009.
IN ESSENCE, THE ANALYSIS LOOKED AT MAINTAINING THE DERELICT 
BUILDING OR DEMOLISHING THE ASBESTOS-LADEN STRUCTURE.
IN CONCLUSION, THE LEGAL OPINION INDICATED THAT MAINTAINING 
THE OLD BUILDING CREATES MUCH MORE RISK OF FUTURE EXPENSES 
THAN TEARING IT DOWN NOW AND AVOIDING POTENTIAL LIABILITY 
OF THIRD PARTIES.
TEARING IT DOWN NOW WILL HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF AVOIDING 
UNNECESSARY EXPENSES IN THE FUTURE.
FURTHERMORE, AS PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND EXHAUSTIVE 
RESEARCH, WE CONTACTED AND CONTRACTED CATALINA ENGINEERING, 
LOCATED AT 120 SOUTH EDISON AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, WHICH 
SPECIALIZES IN CIVIL, STRUCTURE, AND MARINE ENGINEERING TO 
CONDUCT A STRUCTURAL AND ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT AND 
EVALUATION OF THE CONDITION AND THE LIABILITY OF THE TWO-
STORY STRUCTURE LOCATED AT EGMONT.
THIS WAS COMPLETED ON MAY 13th, 2009.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CATALINA 
ENGINEERING'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE 
WAS NOT LISTED ON THE REGISTER OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS BUT 
BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION SIGNIFICANT OF THE 
SUBJECT SITE, EGMONT KEY, CATALINA ENGINEERING REFERENCED 
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR STANDARDS REHABILITATION 
AND GUIDELINES FOR REHABBING A HISTORIC BUILDING.
CRITICAL ELEMENTS AND FINDINGS OF THE STRUCTURAL 
ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT WERE, ALTHOUGH THE STRUCTURE HAS 
SURVIVED MANY YEARS IN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, THE STYLE 
OF FRAMING, FOUNDATION, SUPPORT, AND ROOF ATTACHMENTS LEAVE 
THE STRUCTURE VULNERABLE TO HIGH WINDS, FIRES, AND SCOWLS 
FROM STORM SURGES.
THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR STANDARDS RECOMMEND TAKING AND 
CONSIDERING ECONOMIC AND TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY WHEN 
ADDRESSING TEN CATEGORIES OF REHABILITATION.
THESE WERE LOOKED AT BY CATALINA ENGINEERING.
CATALINA ENGINEERING IN AN EXHAUSTIVE STUDY RECOMMENDED 
THAT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE BE REMOVED BY -- VIA DEMOLITION.
ON MAY 19th, 2009, AS CONTINUED PROCESS OF THE DUE PROCESS, 
THE TAMPA BAY PILOTS APPEARED BEFORE THE HILLSBOROUGH 
COUNTY HISTORIC RESOURCES REVIEW BOARD IN REGARD TO A 
DEMOLITION REVIEW OF THE TWO-STORY STRUCTURE.
THE BOARD DECIDED UNANIMOUSLY THAT DEMOLITION WOULD NOT 
HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON HISTORIC RESOURCES.
COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS AND 
FOLLOWING WE THINK THE INTENT, THE SPIRIT, AND THE RULES OF 
A GOOD BUSINESS OPERATION.
WE HAVE CONTRACTED A COMPANY THAT IS CERTIFIED APPROVED BY 
THE STATE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF DEP REGARDING ASBESTOS 
REMOVAL, AND WE ARE ALSO CONTRACTING A COMPANY TO REMOVE 
THE -- DO THE DEMOLITION AFTER THE ASBESTOS HAS BEEN 
REMOVED.
AS WE APPROACH THIS HURRICANE SEASON AND BASED ON THE 
VARIOUS FINDINGS AND SO FORTH, WE THINK THE STEPS THAT 
WE'RE TAKING ARE PRUDENT AND ARE GOOD BUSINESS DECISIONS 
AND AS BEING A GOOD CITIZEN OF TAMPA BAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY 
QUESTIONS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, SIR.
COMMISSIONER FERLITA, YOU WANT TO ASK MR. CAMPBELL --
>>ROSE FERLITA:  NO.
THANK YOU, CAPTAIN, AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US 
SOME INFORMATION.
JERRY, I JUST WANT YOU, IF YOU WOULD, TO LET US KNOW WHAT 
THE PROCESS IS, WHERE YOU ARE IN THE INSPECTION, HOW LONG 
IT WILL TAKE TO COMPLETE YOUR FINAL REVIEW, AND FROM THERE, 
I'M GOING TO KIND OF MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT STAFF WORK 
THROUGH THAT PROCESS GIVEN THAT THERE'S STILL THE ISSUE OF 
NOT HAVING A PERMIT FROM US TO RAZE THE HOME -- THE HOUSE, 
SO IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF GIVE US YOUR PARTICIPATION IN 
THIS IF YOU WOULD.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
JERRY CAMPBELL, STAFF TO EPC.
EPC IS CHARGED WITH BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEDERAL 
ASBESTOS PROGRAM.
THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE CAPTAIN JUST SPOKE ABOUT DO COME 
UNDER CONTROL OF THAT PROGRAM.
WE ACT AS THE STATE'S AGENT.
THEY DID GIVE US PROPER NOTIFICATION THAT THEY WANTED TO 
REMOVAL SEVERAL THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF ASBESTOS-CONTAINING 
MATERIAL.
THEY HAVE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT WORK.
THE NOTICE WE RECEIVED SAID THAT WORK IS ONGOING AS WE 
SPEAK AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED TOMORROW.
WE ARE GOING TO BE SENDING AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE.
HE'S ACTUALLY HOPPING A RIDE ON ONE OF OUR MONITORING BOATS 
TO GO OUT TO THE ISLAND AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE WORK, AND WE 
DON'T EXPECT ANY FURTHER ISSUES WITH THAT.
IF THEY DO INTEND TO BRING DOWN THE BUILDING, THEY WOULD 
OWE US A SECOND NOTIFICATION DECLARING THAT THE BUILDING IS 
ASBESTOS FREE.
WE GENERALLY GET A TEN-DAY NOTICE ON THAT.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT NOTIFICATION YET.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  SO, MR. CAMPBELL, IT'S TEN DAYS FROM THE 
DAY THEY NOTIFY YOU, AND THAT WILL COMPLETE YOUR 
PARTICIPATION IN THIS INSPECTION?
>> YES, COMMISSIONER.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  OKAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT SOME OF THESE FACTS, COLLEAGUES, 
ON THE TABLE, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT ISSUES.
CERTAINLY JAN PLATT AND GEORGE HOWELL HAVE BEEN CHAMPIONING 
THE ISSUE OF SAVING IT.
I UNDERSTAND THE CAPTAIN'S OPINION AND WHY THEY'RE 
CONCERNED ABOUT DANGERS IN TERMS OF HURRICANES, AND THEN, 
OF COURSE, LET'S BE REALISTIC.
WE'RE LOOKING AT CUTS THIS AFTERNOON, SO OBVIOUSLY EVEN IF 
THERE WERE SOME SORT OF A COMPROMISE WHERE THEY WOULD 
CONSIDER GIVING IT TO THE COUNTY, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO 
MAINTAIN IT.
BUT WHAT I'M HOPEFUL ABOUT IS DURING THE DIALOGUE -- AND I 
GUESS, MS. LEE, THIS IS GOING TO GO TO YOU, IF YOU DON'T 
MIND, TO DIRECT YOU AND DIRECT STAFF TO SEE WHAT 
COMPROMISES CAN BE MADE WHILE THEY'RE WAITING ANYWAY SO 
WE'RE NOT JEOPARDIZING THE ISSUE OF HEALTH, SAFETY, AND 
WELFARE IN TERMS OF A HURRICANE OR ANY KIND OF A DISASTER 
LIKE THAT.
PERHAPS I'M HOPEFUL THAT IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IF THERE IS 
SOME COMPROMISE THAT CAPTAIN THOMPSON'S GROUP CAN LOOK AT 
WITH OUR STAFF AND WITH SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT WANT TO ADOPT 
THIS, PERHAPS MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A 
FOUNDATION.
I KNOW THAT ECKERD COLLEGE USES IT SOMETIME WITH RELATION 
TO THEIR STUDY OF SEA TURTLES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE.
I KNOW THAT AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SAVED, I 
WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO LOOK AT SAFETY AND 
THEN ALSO THE ISSUE OF BUDGETS, WHICH, OF COURSE, WE HAVE 
NOTHING TO OFFER IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING IT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I'M JUST -- WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS AT LEAST STOP IT 
LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, AND THAT'S WHY I 
BROUGHT IT UP TODAY.
THERE IS AN AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE THE PERMITS WILL HAVE TO 
BE ISSUED, AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF TIME, REALLY, A SHORT 
AMOUNT OF TIME, A VERY SHORT WINDOW, THAT PERHAPS STAFF CAN 
LOOK AT IT AND BRING BACK A REPORT, BRING BACK GOOD NEWS, 
BAD NEWS, OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK THAT GIVEN THE 
HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF IT OR IMPORTANCE THAT WE OWE 
THAT TO PEOPLE IN OUR CONSTITUENCY THAT WANT US TO AT LEAST 
RESEARCH IT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU, TO TAKE NO 
ACTION TODAY EXCEPT TO DO THAT IF YOU WOULD.
>>RENEE LEE:  WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT, COMMISSIONER, AND 
WORK WITH CAPTAIN THOMPSON TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO RESOLVE 
IT.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  OKAY.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>>KEVIN WHITE:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  SECOND COMMISSIONER WHITE.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>KEN HAGAN:  NEXT ITEM.
>>PAT BEAN:  YOUR NEXT ITEM, COMMISSIONERS, IS ITEM B-5, 
WHICH WAS SCHEDULED FOR 10:30.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT 
REGARDING THE REQUEST THAT YOU MADE TO HER TO CONDUCT 
PERFORMANCE AUDITS FOR THE BOARD.
BOTH THE CLERK, PAT FRANK, AND DAN POHTO ARE HERE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER NORMAN, YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE 
THIS ITEM?
>>JIM NORMAN:  YES, I DO.
BOARD MEMBERS, I MADE A LOT OF THE MOTIONS THAT KIND OF GOT 
US TO THIS POINT, AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO 
WHOLEHEARTEDLY THANK OUR CLERK FOR DILIGENTLY GOING AND 
LOOKING TO SEE WHAT YOUR OFFICE COULD DO TO BE A GREAT 
SERVICE TO THIS COUNTY.
YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB HERE.
BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT I PERCEIVED WHAT OUR CLERK, PAT FRANK, 
HAS DONE HERE IS TURNED A MAJOR PROBLEM THAT WAS BREWING 
INTO -- THAT REALLY WASN'T BRAIN SURGERY -- SHE REALLY 
BOILED IT DOWN TO A SERVICE, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT -- AND 
I WANT TO BE VERY OPEN.
I'VE ALSO MET WITH OUR PERFORMANCE AUDITOR -- THAT HE WOULD 
COORDINATE WITH MS. FRANK, AND SHE, IF YOU'VE READ THE 
PAPERWORK, WOULD BE WILLING TO BE BASICALLY AN OUTSIDE 
FIRM, THAT SHE WOULD GO WITHIN DEPARTMENT BEING ABLE TO DO 
THAT, AND IF THERE WERE MONUMENTAL TASKS, TO COORDINATE 
WITH OUR IPA TO GO OUT AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER.
IF IT WASN'T FOR HER LEADERSHIP, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD 
HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THIS WAY.
>>PAT FRANK:  I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER.
>>JIM NORMAN:  AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU.
BUT WE'VE TURNED SOMETHING INTO I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE 
MADE A REAL POSITIVE WHAT THE TAXPAYERS WANTED, THAT ONCE 
AN AUDIT IS DONE, A PERFORMANCE AUDIT IS DONE AND COMPLETED 
BY THE CLERK, IT IS TURNED OVER TO THE IPA, AND THEN HE 
WOULD WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON IMPLEMENTATION AND 
STREAMLINING AND MAKING THE DEPARTMENT BETTER.
WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM NOW THAT IS BEING CRAFTED BECAUSE OF THE 
DEDICATION OF OUR CLERK, AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT.
I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ADD A LOT TO IT.
I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN US SEVERAL OPTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO 
PERSONALLY SAY THAT WITHOUT YOU TAKING THE BULL BY THE 
HORNS IN A WAY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT HERE, SO THANK YOU, 
PAT.
>>PAT FRANK:  WELL, THAT'S VERY KIND OF YOU TO SAY.
>>KEN HAGAN:  WELCOME, MADAM CLERK.
>>PAT FRANK:  WE DID MEET WITH MR. BARNES AND HAVE 
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT A CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH HIM.
WE WENT AHEAD AND OUTLINED WHAT PROCEDURE WE WOULD BE 
COMFORTABLE WITH.
AT ALL TIMES WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE BOARD'S IN CHARGE AND 
THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP THE EXPENSES TO THE LEAST THAT WOULD 
BE INCURRED, SO WE GAVE AN OPTION THAT IF WE HAD TO ADD 
STAFF, THAT WOULD BE ONE PERSON, AND THAT WOULD BE A PERSON 
WHO WOULD BE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS SO THAT IT COULD BE 
TERMINATED AT THE END OF THE YEAR IF WE OR YOU FELT IT 
WASN'T WORKING, AND THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO HAVING 
TO CUT THE AUDITS DOWN THAT WE CONDUCT FOR THE COUNTY RIGHT 
NOW.
IT WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF THREE AUDITS PER YEAR, SO IF YOU 
DON'T WANT TO INCUR ANY EXPENSES, WE CAN REDUCE THE AUDITS 
AND PERFORM THE SERVICES FOR YOU.
>>JIM NORMAN:  AND BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, 
THOUGH, WITHOUT THAT BEING MADE TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO 
ACTUALLY ASK THAT OUR IPA, PAT HAVE A DISCUSSION AND BRING 
BACK A PROPOSAL THAT WE COULD REALISTICALLY CHOOSE WHAT YOU 
WOULD RECOMMEND.
I KNOW THERE'S FINANCIAL ISSUES, THERE'S -- THERE'S ISSUES 
THAT WE FACE ABOUT LAYOFFS LIKE YOU DO, AND I BELIEVE WE 
START OUT PROBABLY AT A MINIMUM AND THEN GROW, BUT I WOULD 
LIKE YOUR BEST DIRECTION ON WHERE DO YOU THINK FINANCIALLY 
AND ACCOUNTABILITYWISE WE CAN GO FROM HERE?
>>PAT FRANK:  WELL, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IS LOOK AT YOUR 
POLICY THAT YOU HAVE ON THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT DUTY, HOW TO 
CARRY THAT OUT.
WE'VE TRIED TO ADD ALL THOSE ELEMENTS IN THE SUGGESTION 
THAT WE'VE MADE HERE, AND WE HAVE THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE 
AWED TO, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, THE INVOLVEMENT OF 
THE BOARD, THE PROCESSES THAT WE GO THROUGH IN -- IN 
RECOMMENDING TO YOU WHICH -- WHICH AREAS OF THE GOVERNMENT 
SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, AND ALSO THE PURCHASING ARRANGEMENT 
THAT WOULD BE TAKEN SO THAT THERE WOULD BE RFPs AT ALL -- 
AT ALL TURNS AND THEY WOULD FOLLOW CONSISTENTLY THE WAY 
THAT YOU COMPORT YOURSELF.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ALMOST -- I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT WITH A 
FLOW CHART OR HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVE 
SUMMARIZED HERE WHAT'S IN THE ESSENCE OF OUR 
RECOMMENDATIONS ALREADY.
SO --
>>JIM NORMAN:  WHICH OPTION DO YOU FEEL --
>>PAT FRANK:  PARDON?
>>JIM NORMAN:  WHICH OPTION DO YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD MOVE 
FORWARD ON?
>>PAT FRANK:  WELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE 
ELEMENTS THAT ARE HERE IN THIS SUMMARY BECAUSE --
>>JIM NORMAN:  THE PERSON -- HIRING OF THE PERSON, TRYING 
TO DO IT WITHOUT -- THAT'S WHERE I GUESS I WAS LEADING.
DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT WITHIN HOUSE WITHOUT EXPENDING 
ANY DOLLARS AT THIS TIME OR --
>>PAT FRANK:  IF WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF AUDITS THAT WE 
DID, REDUCED IT BY THREE, YES.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>>PAT FRANK:  THE OUTSIDE INDEPENDENT ANALYSTS?
>> NO, NO.
WE WOULD RUN THE PROJECTS INTERNALLY.
[INAUDIBLE]
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FOLLOW THE POLICY YOU HAVE 
WHERE -- WHETHER WE GO AND TRY AND HIRE LIKE ON THIS 
CONTRACT BASIS THIS PERSON THAT I -- THAT WE SUGGESTED IN 
HERE OR WE TRY AND USE THE RESOURCES INTERNALLY, IF WE USE 
THE RESOURCES INTERNALLY THAT I HAVE, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE 
STILL DO A PROJECT MANAGER TYPE THING WHERE WE GO OUT AND 
GET SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT WOULD KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE 
IF THE ROAD DEPARTMENT'S DOING PROPERLY OR SOLID WASTE OR 
WATER DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE WOULD STILL BE A PROJECT 
MANAGER AS OUTLINED IN THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE, BUT WE'D 
USE INTERNAL RESOURCES TO DO THAT, AND THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY 
FROM WHAT WE'RE GIVING YOU NOW.
SO THE TWO OPTIONS THERE ARE -- FROM HIRING A PERSON OR 
DOING IT INTERNALLY WOULD STILL BE USING AS A PROJECT 
MANAGER TO GO OUT AND HIRE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, AND 
I THINK THAT -- I THINK, PAT, THAT WITH -- WITH WHAT WAS IN 
THE NEWSPAPERS THAT WAS REPORTED THIS MORNING, I THINK THAT 
MORALLY AND INSIDE, LET US TRY AND DO WITH THE RESOURCES WE 
HAVE AND NOT GO OUT AND HIRE SOMEBODY.
>>JIM NORMAN:  THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, BOARD MEMBERS.
I WOULD TRY TO MOVE THAT, THAT WE COULD MOVE THIS ALONG AND 
LEAVE IT TO THE LEADERSHIP OF PAT, OUR IPA, AND SEE WHAT 
KIND OF PRODUCT THEY CAN BRING US IN THE FUTURE.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I GUESS AS WE'RE GOING ALONG TO DEFINE WHAT THE CLERK'S 
ROLE WOULD BE IN THIS, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF LOOKING AT THIS AS 
WELL.
I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR WHEN 
WE'RE REVIEWING THE CLERK'S RESPONSIBILITIES ALSO WHAT IS 
OUR EXPECTATIONS OF OUR IPA, AND I KNOW IT SAYS IN HERE THE 
DUTIES OF THE INTERNAL PERFORMANCE AUDITOR IS OUTLINED IN 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHARTER SECTION 4.1 AND AS ASSIGNED BY 
THE BOCC WOULD REMAIN THE SAME, AND MR. BARNES MAY CONCUR 
WITH THIS IS STILL THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS AS FAR AS WHAT 
HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AND HIS DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITIES 
WOULD BE AS PART OF THIS REORGANIZATION, SO I WOULD ASK, 
MR. NORMAN, AS PART OF THAT THAT THE STAFF WOULD ALSO 
INCLUDE WHAT -- AND WE TRIED TO CLEARLY DEFINE AS A BOARD 
WHAT THE IPA'S RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE GOING FURTHER, AND 
ONE OTHER COMMENT.
I KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER THE ROUTE WHERE WE MAY 
NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON -- I KNOW MR. POHTO 
MENTIONED NOT GOING OUTSIDE, AND I KNOW WE'RE UNDER BUDGET 
CONSTRAINTS, BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 
THAT ADDITIONAL PERSON WE WOULD LOOK FIRST INSIDE AND 
PERHAPS EVEN CONSIDER SOMEBODY FROM MR. BARNES' DEPARTMENT 
IF THEY'RE QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED AND THEY MEET YOUR 
EXPECTATIONS.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE SOMEBODY, I'D 
PREFER THAT WE TRY TO -- IF THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS 
THAT WE DO IT FROM INSIDE AS OPPOSED TO OUTSIDE, ESPECIALLY 
WITH ALL THE CUTS THAT WE'RE MAKING ALREADY.
>>JIM NORMAN:  MY COMMENT THAT I TRIED TO MAKE EARLIER -- 
AND AGAIN -- WOULD BE THEY'RE THE OUTSIDE FIRM.
THE -- THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE AS WE'VE HAD OUR 
EARLIER CONVERSATION -- IF THEY DID FIVE FINANCIAL AUDITS 
DURING A YEAR, TEN FINANCIAL -- WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS -- 
TWO OR THREE WOULD JUMP OUT THAT WERE NEEDING SOME MORE 
ATTENTION.
THAT COULD HIGHLIGHT BETWEEN THE CLERK AND THE IPA ON WHICH 
ONES THEY WOULD DO A PERFORMANCE AUDIT, THE OUTSIDE FIRM.
THEY WOULD DELIVER THAT OVER TO OUR IPA.
HE WOULD THEN HAVE THAT WORK PRODUCT TO BE ABLE TO THEN 
WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT CORRECTIVE ACTION 
AND STREAMLINING AND HAVE A BETTER PERFORMANCE OF A 
DEPARTMENT, AND IT WOULD BE -- HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT EYES 
ON IT TO HELP REALLY THE MISSION OF WHAT IT WAS PASSED IN 
THE FIRST PLACE.
STREAMLINED, EFFICIENCIES, AND SAVINGS, AND THAT'S -- AND 
HE WOULD BE THE MANAGER -- JIM WOULD BE THE MANAGER TO 
OVERSEE AND TO BE THE COORDINATOR.
HIS INDEPENDENCE WOULD BE THERE, WORKING INDEPENDENTLY WITH 
THE CLERK AND THEN OVERSEEING IT AS AN INDEPENDENT AGENT 
OVER THE -- WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  SO WE MAY HAVE MORE THAN THREE AUDITS IN 
A YEAR, BUT MAYBE -- WE'LL BE CHOOSING WHAT THREE AUDITS 
WE'RE GOING TO SEND OVER TO MR. BARNES --
>>JIM NORMAN:  THE CLERK WOULD STILL DO FINANCIAL AUDITS, 
AND THAT WOULD HELP IDENTIFY PROBLEM AREAS WITHIN THE 
COUNTY THAT NEEDED ADDITIONAL WORK THAT MR. BARNES AND THE 
CLERK WILL DO.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  SO IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS TO LOOK 
AT, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH MR. BARNES' OFFICE FIRST?
OKAY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ON BOTH SIDES WE HAVE THAT 
CLARIFIED, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK STAFF TO HAVE PART 
OF THAT -- >>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  THANK YOU.
A COUPLE THINGS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ONE-YEAR WINDOW, JIM, THAT WOULD COME 
BACK -- WE'RE GOING TO HIRE AN EXTRA PERSON, POTENTIALLY, 
OR REASSIGN DUTIES FOR ONE YEAR, IS THAT WHAT I'M 
UNDERSTANDING HERE?
WE JUST HAD SOME CROSS-DISCUSSION [INAUDIBLE]
>>JIM NORMAN:  THE MOTION IS TO PUT THIS IN ACTION.
IF WE FIND AS THINGS GROW OR CHANGE, THE LEADERSHIP HERE 
CAN ADDRESS THIS BOARD IN THE NEXT CYCLE OR IN THE NEXT 
YEAR AND SAY IT'S GOING WELL.
THEY ALSO HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO COME TO 
US -- AND AGAIN, I KEEP USING HEALTH CARE KNOWING THAT 
THERE'S NOT THE PROBLEM THERE -- NEEDING THE EXPERTISE OR 
THE ROAD DEPARTMENT, AS PAT JUST MENTIONED, THEY MIGHT NEED 
TO COME TO THE BOARD AND SAY WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM IN THE 
ROAD DEPARTMENT, WE NEED TO HIRE OUTSIDE PEOPLE WHO 
UNDERSTAND ASPHALT AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS.
THEY WOULD INTERACT WITH US TO PUT THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE ON.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  MUCH LIKE THE EPC HYBRID WHERE WE GET 
QUARTERLY REPORTS, IF I COULD ADD TO YOUR MOTION NOT 
QUARTERLY REPORTS BUT AT THE END OF THIS 12 MONTHS YOU COME 
BACK WITH A REPORT TO RECONSIDER HOW THIS IS GOING WITH THE 
IPA AND SEE IF WE'RE GETTING THE INDEPENDENT STUDIES 
BECAUSE MY CONCERN HAS BEEN THE INDEPENDENT STUDY, AND I'M 
GOING TO POINT AT MY FRIEND, PAT, BUT -- AND IT'S NOT 
POINTING AT YOU, BUT PART OF THIS IS INDEPENDENCE, AND IF 
THE ADMINISTRATOR IS SITTING AT THE -- AT THE STUDY GROUP 
OR WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED TO DETERMINE THOSE 
RESPONSIBILITIES, I HAVE SOME QUESTION AS -- IF WE'RE 
LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER THROUGH THE IPA -- AND I DON'T 
MEAN THAT IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN WHAT I'VE SAID -- IT MAY BE 
A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO HAVE YOU OUTLINING THE -- AND 
HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
IT MAY BE A CONFLICT HERE TO HAVE THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO 
BE THE SUBJECT OF INDEPENDENT AUDITS -- AND THAT'S NOT 
COMING OUT THE WAY I INTENDED.
IT'S NOT DIRECTED AT YOU, BUT THIS IS OUR INDEPENDENT EYES 
AND EARS.
SHOULD YOU BE AT THE TABLE OUTLINING THE STUDY?
>>JIM NORMAN:  SHE'S NOT.
SHE IS.
>>PAT BEAN:  WRONG PAT.
>>JIM NORMAN:  NO, THIS PAT IS THE ONE --
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  I HEARD PAT.
OKAY.
>>JIM NORMAN:  THIS PAT'S THE ONE THAT HAS THE -- WITH THE 
AUDITORS THAT DOES THE FINANCIAL, SEES THE FALL-OUT OF 
WHICH ONES NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, AND THEN WITH THE IPA 
CRAFT WHICH ONES THEY AS THE INDEPENDENT FIRM WOULD DO THE 
PERFORMANCE AUDIT, DELIVER THEM TO JIM, WHO THEN WOULD WORK 
TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  AND -- OKAY.
SO WE'VE GOT RIGHT CHURCH, WRONG PEW.
>>PAT BEAN:  KNOCK ME OUT OF IT.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  ALL RIGHT.
NOTHING PERSONAL.
NOW, MS. FRANK, YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR STAFF AND 
YOUR -- THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH YOU, SIR, TO BE ABLE TO 
PERFORM WHAT WE ALL KNOW IS THE -- THE PERFORMANCE AUDITS?
YOU'VE GOT THE RATINGS AND SO ON TO HAVE THE STAFF TO DO 
PERFORMANCE AUDITS, TO BE OBJECTIVE FOR US?
>>PAT FRANK:  YOU RESPOND TO IT BECAUSE I ASKED DAN THIS 
QUESTION.
>>DAN POHTO:  DAN POHTO, DIRECTOR OF COUNTY AUDIT WITH THE 
CLERK'S OFFICE.
AS -- WHAT I KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER, I SEE US IN THE 
CLERK'S OFFICE AS BEING THE PROJECT MANAGER, SOMEWHAT LIKE 
WHAT'S OUTLINED IN YOUR POLICY, THAT WE WOULD GO OUT AND 
FIND THE BEST PARTIES TO DO THAT AUDIT AND MANAGE THEM.
WE'D DO THE PLANNING, WE'D DO THE OVERVIEW, WE'D MAKE SURE 
THE REPORT'S CORRECT, WE'D DO SUPERVISION.
EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW BOOK WE WOULD ACT 
AS THAT PERSON.
THE PROBLEM THAT ARISES HERE BY NOT HAVING THAT -- 
PERMITTING ME TO HAVE THAT INDEPENDENCE IS THAT I'M YELLOW 
BOOK QUALIFIED, OKAY, AND IF I DO THAT, THEN I CAN HIRE 
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WHO CAN'T COME IN AND TELL YOU THAT 
THEY'RE YELLOW BOOK.
YOU KNOW, YOUR POLICY SAYS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE YELLOW 
BOOK.
YOU VERY LIMIT YOUR AUDIENCE OR YOUR OPPORTUNITY IF YOU SAY 
THAT YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO YELLOW BOOK AND YOU MISS THE 
BEST SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OUT THERE.
AGAIN, WHAT MR. NORMAN WAS SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER 
IT'S ROADS OR SOLID WASTE OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S -- UNLESS -- UNTIL -- UNTIL YOUR IPA SHOP GETS 
YELLOW BOOK OR AT LEAST MAYBE FOR THE NEXT YEAR IF WE TRY 
AND WORK THIS OUT -- IF I'M DOING IT, I CAN -- I CAN 
PROVIDE YOU YELLOW BOOK WITH SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  OKAY.
AND IT'S A CATCH-22 TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED SO THEY HAVE 
THE YELLOW BOOK SO THEY'RE HERE LONG ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
>>JIM NORMAN:  THAT'S WORK IN PROGRESS.
I LIKE YOUR UPDATE IDEA, AND WE'LL GO --
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  OKAY.
WE'LL PUT A TICKER ON THIS AND LOOK AT IT IN 12 MONTHS.
AND AS WE HAVE THE AUDITS, CAN YOU GIVE US A COST AHEAD OF 
TIME, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RFPs, BUT SO THAT WE KNOW 
-- PART OF THE DEBATE HERE IS TO SAVE MONEY, IF WE'RE GOING 
TO DO TWO OR THREE OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE THAT WE KNOW 
WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE WE SEND YOU 
OUT ON A MISSION OF --
>>DAN POHTO:  I'M SORRY.
I THINK MR. JOHNSON MAY HAVE ADDRESSED THAT A MONTH OR SO 
AGO, AND I DON'T HAVE A -- EXCUSE ME -- I DON'T HAVE AN 
IDEA THAT IF WE GO AND SCOPE A PARTICULAR AUDIT AND SAY 
HERE'S WHAT WE WANT DONE, THIS DEPARTMENT, WHAT THAT COST 
WOULD BE.
I DON'T HAVE THAT.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  SO -- OKAY.
>>DAN POHTO:  MR. JOHNSON I THINK HAD GONE OUT AND SURVEYED 
SOME PEOPLE.
I DON'T WANT TO THROW A NUMBER OUT, BUT I KNOW IT WAS SIX 
FIGURES IN THAT AREA.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
>>MARK SHARPE:  NO, I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WERE 
ACTUALLY POSED BY COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM, BUT I DO WANT 
TO SAY THAT I'VE GOT GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE CLERK'S 
OFFICE, AND I -- I THINK THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE 
BEEN TRYING TO DO IN SOME OTHER AREAS AS WELL, WHICH IS 
KIND OF BREAKING DOWN THE -- WE HAVE TO PERFORM CERTAIN 
FUNCTIONS, BUT THE WAY WE'VE BEEN GOING ABOUT IT, PERHAPS 
IN THE PAST -- AND I WAS GUILTY OF THIS -- WAS, YOU KNOW, 
AN EXPENSIVE WAY IN WHICH YOU GROW ONE OFFICE.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN, I REALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS THE WAY WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING IT AND THIS IS 
WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY, AND I JUST APPRECIATE YOU 
WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE WORKING 
WITH US ON A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MS. BEAN.
>>PAT FRANK:  I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT I'M VERY SURE WITH 
THE FINANCIAL CRUNCH YOU'RE IN.
YOU KNOW, MY OFFICE IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING, AND 
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND MONEY THAT ISN'T NECESSARY TO SPEND, 
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING BACK A REQUEST TO YOU FOR 
ADDITIONAL FUNDS OF A MAGNITUDE THAT YOU COULDN'T TOLERATE 
AND WOULD NOT BE REASONABLE FOR US TO ASK FOR.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MS. BEAN, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS?
>>PAT BEAN:  NO.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I HAVE TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN DAN 
AND HIS STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND WORKING 
CERTAINLY FOR PAT FRANK, I KNOW THAT SHE WILL HOLD HIM IN 
CHECK IF HE STARTS TO GET OUT OF CHECK, BUT HE WON'T.
HE'S AN AUDITOR THROUGH AND THROUGH, AND HE'S GOT ALL THE 
CREDENTIALS, AND HE'LL DO IT.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MR. BARNES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE 
MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR HERE?
>>JAMES BARNES:  GOOD MORNING.
JIM BARNES, COUNTY INTERNAL PERFORMANCE AUDITOR.
I MET WITH COMMISSIONER NORMAN, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HIS 
PROPOSAL.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT HE'S SUGGESTING.
IT GIVES ME MUCH MORE -- A CLEARER DIRECTION OF WHAT THIS 
OFFICE NEEDS TO DO, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING 
THAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED HERE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
THANK YOU, SIR.
OKAY.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER NORMAN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>>MARK SHARPE:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  SECOND COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>JIM NORMAN:  THANKS, PAT.
>>PAT FRANK:  THANK YOU.
>>PAT BEAN:  THAT PAT.
COMMISSIONERS, THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS SCHEDULED ON YOUR 
AGENDA WAS ITEM B-4 THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR 10:45.
SINCE WE STARTED THIS MORNING'S MEETING, I HAVE MADE A 
DECISION TO DEFER THAT ITEM.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THAT TODAY.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
>>JIM NORMAN:  SAY THAT AGAIN.
>>PAT BEAN:  ITEM B-4, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THAT 
TODAY.
I'VE DECIDED THAT I NEED TO DEFER THAT FOR SOME ADDITIONAL 
WORK, AND SO I'M DEFERRING IT FOR TWO WEEKS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND I'M ALSO -- IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DEFERRING THIS, THE 
INFORMATION THAT I'VE BEEN REQUESTING FROM THAT DEPARTMENT 
SINCE WE MET, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT'S FOLLOWED UP 
AND GIVE IT -- AND IS PROVIDED TO ME AND THE OTHER 
COMMISSIONERS?
AS OF THIS DATE, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OF THE INFORMATION 
THAT I HAVE REQUESTED.
>>PAT BEAN:  OKAY.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER NORMAN.
>>JIM NORMAN:  I'M NOT GOING TO SAY A WHOLE LOT THAT I WAS 
GOING TO SAY TODAY EXCEPT ONE SMALL THING.
AND I SAID THIS TO EVERYONE THAT MET WITH ME.
I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED IN THE WAY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY 
HAS HANDLED THIS.
I WAS GOING TO EXPRESS IT RATHER OPENLY TODAY.
I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE PUT OUT AN OPEN AND FAIR COMPETITION, 
AND THE WAY IT WAS HANDLED AND CAME BACK THAT WE SOLD OUR 
INTEGRITY FOR A PRICE, AND I WAS GOING TO EXPRESS THAT 
TODAY, AND I'M GOING TO HOLD MY THOUGHTS, AND I HOPE WE -- 
WE NEED TO BE AN HONORABLE, UP-FRONT ORGANIZATION AND WHAT 
WE SAY WE'LL DO, WE'LL DO, AND I EXPECT FOR MYSELF AND 
EVERYONE ELSE TO BE HONORABLE THAT WAY IN BUSINESS, SO AS 
WE GO FORTH IN ANYTHING YOU-ALL DO, PLEASE BE REMINDED 
THAT'S GOING TO BE MY POSITION WHEN IT COMES BACK.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  AND I ECHO THAT AS WELL, THAT, YOU 
KNOW, IF WE TALK INTO AN AGREEMENT AND EVERYBODY 
UNDERSTANDS THE RULES, THAT WE DON'T CHANGE THEM AT THE END 
WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S BIDDING ON THIS 
HAS THE EQUAL CHANCE, AND IF WE GO FROM SELF-INSURED TO A 
FULLY INSURED -- AND AS I WAS GETTING PREPARED, I STARTED 
LOOKING AT NUMBERS.
I GOT THIS INFORMATION ON FRIDAY, I THINK WHEN MOST OF YOU 
RECEIVED IT, SO I STARTED STUDYING, AND I THINK, MR. 
BECKNER, YOU PROBABLY HAVE LICENSES IN INSURANCE WITH 
YOUR -- YOUR CONSULTING BUSINESS, AND I SPENT SEVEN YEARS 
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE, SO I HAVE SOME BACKGROUND 
THERE AS WELL, AND UNDERSTANDING THE RESERVE FUNDS, YOU 
KNOW, THERE'S CLOSE TO $100 MILLION IN RESERVES THERE 
THAT -- HOW WOULD THOSE BE USED IF -- YOU KNOW, WAS THAT AN 
OVERCHARGE TO -- TO EMPLOYEES?
I DON'T THINK IT COULD BE NECESSARILY CATEGORIZED AS THAT, 
BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING THAT ROUTE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO THOSE 
FUNDS -- ARE WE GOING TO USE THOSE IN THE FUTURE, IS IT FOR 
FUNDING OTHER PROGRAMS OR IS IT RATE REDUCTION, BUT THOSE 
ARE THE AREAS THAT I'M GOING TO BE FOCUSED IN ON, BUT IF 
WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THIS, THAT'S FINE FOR TWO WEEKS, BUT 
I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON IT AS WELL.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND -- AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THAT'S ONE OF THE 
QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED, BUT ALSO, IF YOU'VE 
LOOKED THROUGH THESE PROPOSALS, I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN A LOT 
OF CONFUSION.
THERE'S PROBABLY WARRANTS -- YOU'RE PROBABLY CORRECT, THAT 
THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSIONS, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE BEEN 
PRESENTED IS NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF EXACTLY 
WHAT WE'RE GETTING VERSUS SELF-FUNDED AND FULLY INSURED, 
AND I'VE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, HAVE NOT 
RECEIVED THAT, SO IF YOU'RE -- IF YOUR CURIOSITY IS BEING 
PIQUED BY THE DIFFERENCES IN NUMBERS, IT'S WARRANTED, AND 
I'VE GOT DIFFERENT NUMBERS AS WELL TOO, SO WE HAVE SOME 
SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS TO DO AMONG THESE POLICIES.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AS WELL, CERTAINLY FROM COMING FROM THE HEALTH CARE 
BACKGROUND, I LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS, AND I HAD 
SOME QUESTIONS.
MS. SWANSON TRIED TO ANSWER THEM YESTERDAY, BUT WE ALL SEEM 
TO HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT NOT BEING COMFORTABLE TO VOTE 
FOR OR AGAINST OR PICK ONE OR PICK THE OTHER, AND SO 
MS. BEAN IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO, 
CONTINUING IT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, 
STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY, PAT, TO MAKE SURE THEY ANSWER IT 
WELL IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
IT'S HEALTH CARE AND IT'S -- IT'S WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE 
WORRIED ABOUT, SOMETIMES MORE THAN ACTUAL SALARIES, SO 
WE'VE GOT TIME TO CRYSTALLIZE THE PROCESS, AND WE CAN COME 
BACK WITH A CONSCIENTIOUS DECISION, SO I APPRECIATE THE 
TINTS ACTUALLY.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  YEAH, AND COMMISSIONER FERLITA, THAT'S 
RIGHT, SHE'S DONE EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S DOING IS CONTINUING 
THIS, AND WHEN YOU COME BACK, I HOPE TO SEE MORE APPLES AND 
APPLES, AND WHATEVER POLICY WE GO WITH, THERE'S GOING TO BE 
AN INCREASE, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE -- IT WASN'T ON THE FRONT 
PAGE WHEN WE LOOKED AT REAL INCREASES FROM -- FROM YEAR ONE 
AND TWO AND THEN BEYOND THAT WE WOULDN'T KNOW, BUT LET'S 
MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL GETTING 
INTO WITH THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE 
WITHIN THIS -- THIS BUILDING WHO WORK IN THE COUNTY SYSTEM 
AND GET THEIR INPUT ON IT AS WELL, SO THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
>>MARK SHARPE:  WELL -- AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REQUEST 
THAT YOU'VE MADE, COMMISSIONER BECKNER AND OTHERS IN -- AND 
GET THE DATA BACK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHICH -- I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT 
THAT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT ONE OF THE LARGEST EXPENSES 
FACING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS COMES WITH ENTITLEMENTS AND 
BENEFITS, AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE I THINK AT SOME POINT 
AN INCREASE OF AN IMPACT ON EMPLOYEES, AND SO I'M PREPARED 
WHEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE -- YOU KNOW THAT WE 
HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK IN ORDER 
FOR US TO REDUCE OUR EXPENSES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK 
AT CHANGES, SO I'M -- I MEAN, I THINK IT ALL NEEDS TO BE 
FAIR, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER NORMAN, IT NEEDS TO BE 
FAIR, IT ALL HAS TO BE LAID OUT, EVERYBODY HAS AN 
OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THE 
ASSERTION WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUE OF HOW WE DO BUSINESS, 
BUT THAT SAID, WE ALSO WERE LOOKING AT A COMPLETELY NEW DAY 
AND HOW -- AND WHAT WE ALL CAN EXPECT WITH REGARD TO 
BENEFITS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE?
WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION IN TWO WEEKS, FOLKS.
>>JIM NORMAN:  [INAUDIBLE]
>>MARK SHARPE:  I WASN'T SUGGESTING IN ANY WAY THAT YOU 
WERE --
>>JIM NORMAN:  IT'S AN INTEGRITY AND PROCESS THAT YOU'VE 
GOT TO BE HONEST, ABOVEBOARD WITH EVERYBODY, AND WHEN YOU 
GO INTO A PROCESS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT CHANGES BECAUSE 
YOU SELL OUT BECAUSE SOMEBODY CHANGES SOMETHING, THAT IS 
NOT AN INTEGRITY ORGANIZATION THAT'S DOING BUSINESS WITH 
EVERYBODY.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING BY 
COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>>KEVIN WHITE:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  SECOND COMMISSIONER WHITE.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>KEN HAGAN:  NEXT ITEM.
>>PAT BEAN:  I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME WE COULD QUICKLY TAKE 
ITEM B-2.
IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES AHEAD OF THE 11:00 TIME 
CERTAINS, BUT IF WE COULD TAKE B-2, THIS IS A REPORT FROM 
COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING ENHANCING PUBLIC INFORMATION.
LORI HUDSON IS HERE TO PRESENT THAT ITEM.
>>LORI HUDSON:  GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
LORI HUDSON, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK TO PROVIDE FURTHER SUGGESTIONS 
SINCE THE MAY 20th MEETING FOR ENHANCING PUBLIC INFORMATION 
AND INPUT.
WHEN WE DO THAT, WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OUR CITIZENS 
AND HOW BUSY THEIR LIVES ARE.
THEY HAVE PARENTING DUTIES, HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, MILLION AND 
ONE DISTRACTIONS, AND ALWAYS THINGS TO DO, SO IF WE'RE 
GOING TO INVITE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT 
THE EASIER, THE BETTER.
IT HAS TO BE ON THEIR TERMS, AND WE HAVE TO CUT THROUGH THE 
CLUTTER OF THEIR DAILY LIVES.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE LOOK AT DIRECT, EASY-TO-
RESPOND, AND INTERACTIVE NOTIONS, SUGGESTIONS THAT WE ARE 
PROVIDING HERE TODAY THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR VIRTUAL TOWN 
HALL BUT NOT JUST VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IN THE TIME PERIOD OF 
YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SENDING OUT DIRECT 
COMMUNICATIONS TO E-MAIL GROUPS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, 
GROUPS THAT HAVE ALREADY SUBSCRIBED TO RECEIVE INFORMATION 
FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, CONDO 
OWNER ASSOCIATIONS, WE HAVE E-NEWS GROUP, PGM NOW HAS A 
MULTIOUTLET NEWSLETTER THAT THEY'RE DOING, CODE ENFORCEMENT 
NEWS, MEDIA OUTLETS, A NUMBER.
WE HAVE ABOUT 500 PEOPLE FOLLOWING US ON TWITTER, AND WE 
WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THOSE FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, 
AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING PERHAPS A COUNTY FACEBOOK AND A 
COUNTY MYSPACE SITE THAT WOULD ONLY ECHO WHAT WE CURRENTLY 
PROVIDE ON THE COUNTY'S WEB SITE AND ACTUALLY STEER FOLKS 
BACK TO THE COUNTY'S WEB SITE TO PARTICIPATE.
FURTHER, WE DO HAVE SOME VERY TRADITIONAL DIRECT MEANS TO 
REACH PEOPLE.
WE DO USE THE COMMUNICATOR WATER BILL STUFFER, AND WE WOULD 
RECOMMEND THAT.
THAT GOES OUT TO ABOUT 125,000 HOMES.
I'VE TALKED WITH WARREN WEATHERS WITH THE PROPERTY 
APPRAISER'S OFFICE, AND HOPEFULLY WE COULD HAVE A MENTION 
ON THE TRIM NOTICE ITSELF OR IN THE TRIM NOTICE ENVELOPE.
WE DO HAVE OTHER UTILITIES' NOTICES THAT ARE SENT OUT TO 
CITIZENS, AND WE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AS A VENUE, AND THEN OF 
COURSE, WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE THE 
BOARD'S AGENDA POSTINGS AND CALENDAR, AND WE MIGHT 
RECOMMEND THAT AS WELL AS A MEANS TO REACH PEOPLE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EASY TO RESPOND, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER 
THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SO ON THEIR TERMS AND 
WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT TO THEM.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A HOME PAGE BANNER, A VERY 
VISIBLE BANNER.
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING YOU SEE ACTUALLY WHEN YOU OPEN 
UP.
AND IT WOULD HAVE AN E-MAIL BOX.
BY THE WAY, WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THIS E-MAIL BOX.
IT'S HCBUDGET@HILLSBOROUGHCOUNTY.ORG, AND ALL OF YOUR AIDES 
HAVE READ ACCESS TO THE E-MAILS THAT WILL BE COMING IN TO 
THAT, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO THIS TODAY, THAT WE 
START TODAY, JUNE 3rd, AND WE RUN THIS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 
17th, WHICH IS YOUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE ALSO SUGGESTING THE CREATION OF AN ON-LINE SURVEY.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE WEB SOFTWARE CALLED WEB SURVEYOR, AND WE 
CAN DO THIS.
BY THE WAY, ALL OF THIS IS STUFF THAT WE CAN DO TODAY.
THESE ARE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE HAVE.
BY USING WEB SURVEYOR, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE FASTER AND 
CONVENIENT FOR CITIZENS.
IT WOULD LEAD THEM THROUGH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, AND THEN 
WE CAN COMPILE THOSE RESULTS AND GET THEM TO YOU IN A 
REPORTED FASHION WITH PIE CHARTS AND GRAPHS, AND YOU CAN 
EASILY DIGEST, REALLY, WHAT THE PUBLIC'S FEELINGS ARE ON 
THINGS.
AND WE KNOW FROM SURVEYS AS RECENTLY AS THIS SUMMER THAT 
ABOUT 25% OF OUR CITIZENS DO NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS, SO 
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO HAVE A PHONE HOT LINE, AND 
THIS WOULD START TODAY AS WELL, AND THAT WE HAVE THAT 
AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT WOULD RATHER CALL AND LEAVE A 
MESSAGE, AND WE WOULD GET THOSE MESSAGES TO BOARD MEMBERS.
DURING THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARINGS THEMSELVES, WE SUGGEST 
INTERACTIVE ACTIVITY, REAL-TIME INSTANT MESSING, NOT UNLIKE 
WHAT WE DID ACTUALLY DURING SOME OF THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, 
WHERE WE TOOK IN E-MAIL COMMENTS, WE PUT THEM ON A 
DIFFERENT COLOR COMMENT CARD, AND WE GAVE THEM TO THE CHAIR 
SO THEY COULD BE REFERENCED AS INCOMING E-MAIL.
E-MAIL COMMENTS COULD BE READ BY THE CHAIRMAN OR BY THE 
BOARD.
WE COULD HAVE A PHONE BANK USING THE CITIZENS ACTION CENTER 
TO BE ABLE TO TAKE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS ON THE LIVE HOT 
LINE, AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE, WE COULD EVEN HAVE SOMEONE FROM 
THERE REPORTING IN TO THE COMMISSION ADVISING YOU AS TO 
WHAT CALLERS ARE CALLING ABOUT, A SORT OF LIVE REPORTING 
FROM THE PHONE BANK DURING THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES.
WHAT MATTERS TO YOU?
THIS IS A WORKING TITLE, OBVIOUSLY.
WE CAN TITLE THIS ANYTHING THAT YOU CHOOSE, BUT THE BOTTOM 
LINE IS YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT CITIZENS CONSIDER IS 
VALUABLE, WHAT MATTERS TO THEM.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS 
FOR THIS PUBLIC AWARENESS AND PARTICIPATION.
WE KNOW FROM OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT FAR AND AWAY THOSE 
THAT WE SURVEYED, THE VAST MAJORITY TOLD US THAT THE WAY 
THEY KNEW ABOUT THE TOWN HALL MEETING WAS BY SEEING SIGNS 
ALONG MAJOR ROADWAYS, AND WE HAVE THAT CAPACITY NOW TO DO 
THAT.
WE THINK WE SHOULD.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS SHOWS, BOTH ON HTV AND 
OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE, MAKE SURE 
THAT THEY GET THE INFORMATION AND PROVIDE THAT TO CITIZENS.
THANKS TO THE VERY GOOD NEGOTIATION OF STAFF DURING THE 
REALIGNMENT OF THE HTV CHANNEL, WE OBTAINED $75,000 IN FREE 
CABLE ADVERTISING WITH BRIGHT HOUSE, AND I AM RECOMMENDING 
THAT WE USE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF THAT, THAT FREE TIME, TO 
HAVE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE SPECTRUM 
ON CABLE, AND WE ALSO HAVE FREE PUBLIC SERVICE 
ADVERTISEMENTS FROM WFLA AND SOME OTHERS THAT WE CAN USE, 
AND WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING VERIZON AS WELL, AS THEY HAVE 
SAID THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE THE SAME.
SO WE THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT LEADING UP TO EACH AND EVERY 
ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
NEWSPAPER ADS WOULD BE ANOTHER CAPABILITY, ESPECIALLY OUT 
INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND THE COMMUNITY NEWSPAPERS.
THAT DOES HAVE A COST WITH IT.
WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY AS MUCH AS $4,000 TO RUN 
THE ADS ON THAT.
POSTERS, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE SEE POSTERS IN ALL OF OUR 
FACILITIES, OUR LIBRARIES, OUR AGING SERVICE CENTERS, OUR 
SERVICE CENTERS, OUR HSS SERVICE CENTERS, AND THE LIKE 
THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND WE COULD DO A SHORT RUN OF 
POSTERS MUCH LIKE WE DID, COMMISSIONER NORMAN, FOR THE 
MILITARY COMBAT GRANT, AND WE COULD DO THOSE AS WELL.
IT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING TO TALK ABOUT 
SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU, 
THAT WE ACTUALLY BEGAN A TASK FORCE, THANKS TO THE 
LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THAT BEGAN APRIL 
30th, AND IT IS COMPRISED OF COMMUNICATIONS, THE COUNTY 
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I.T.S., HUMAN RESOURCES, AND OTHER 
DEPARTMENTS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE WE 
KNOW THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO GET THEIR 
INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT'S CONVENIENT TO THEM, AND THEY 
ARE SIGNING UP USING SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY LIKE TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE, THEY LIKE THE 
INTERACTIVITY, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE 
NEED TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE START TO GO OFF IN THAT 
DIRECTION, AND WE'D LIKE TO, AS A TASK FORCE, COME TOGETHER 
AND WORK ON RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEN WE COULD THEN PROVIDE 
TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION POSSIBLY OF A BOARD POLICY.
THAT'S MY PRESENTATION ON ENHANCING PUBLIC INFORMATION AND 
INPUT, AND I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, LORI.
COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND 
CONGRATULATE YOU ON A JOB WELL DONE AND TAKING THIS 
DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD HERE ON REACHING OUT AND MAKING 
SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS INVOLVED.
I KNOW THIS STARTED WITH MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SOME OFF-SITE 
MEETINGS.
THAT'S COST-PROHIBITIVE, BUT IN UTILIZING THE TOOLS THAT WE 
HAVE AND -- THAT WOULD MAKE THIS EASIER TO ENHANCE THE 
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE INPUT AND CREATE AS MUCH 
TRANSPARENCY AS POSSIBLE.
AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, ESPECIALLY AT 
LOOKING AT WHAT OUR CURRENT ASSETS ARE THAT WE HAVE TO USE.
I DON'T KNOW -- JUST LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW 
IF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE COMMENT -- THAT WE NEED PRINT 
MEDIA ADVERTISEMENT.
YOU PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC -- WHEN 
THEY READ, DO THEY REALLY USE NEWSPAPERS OR OTHER PRINT 
MEDIAS?
I LIKE THE POSTER IDEA, LIKE I KNOW THAT YOU'VE TALKED 
ABOUT HOW WE POST FOR OTHER MEETINGS, YOU'LL GO OUT IN THE 
COMMUNITY TO PROMOTE IT AS WELL, ON THE WEB SITE.
AND ON THE -- AS WE HAVE TALKED BEFORE OR YESTERDAY, ON -- 
THE PROGRAM, OUR -- I KNOW -- I THINK IT WAS WHAT MATTERS 
TO YOU, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S 
MORE TARGETED SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY 
ADDRESSING BUDGET, AND IT WOULD BE "OUR BUDGET MATTERS" 
BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND IT'S ALL OF US, AND 
THAT -- IF YOU HAVE THE CATCH TERM "OUR BUDGET MATTERS," 
THEN THAT HOPEFULLY WILL ENTICE MORE PEOPLE.
IT'S THREE WORDS, IT'S SHORT BUT ENTICES PEOPLE TO 
PARTICIPATE WITH THAT.
>>LORI HUDSON:  YES.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP, AND 
THE OTHER THING IS ON YOUR -- YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
I KNOW THAT NUMBER WAS USED FOR I THINK EFFICIENCY 
REPORTING.
>>LORI HUDSON:  EFFICIENCY HOT LINE, YES.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  THAT WAS A REAL LONG GREETING MESSAGE.
YOU MAY WANT TO SHORTEN IT UP A LOT SO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A 
HURRY CAN --
>>LORI HUDSON:  AGREED.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  -- GET IN THERE, MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, 
AND GET ON WITH LIFE'S WORK, BUT THANK YOU FOR THIS, AND 
MY -- MY ONLY REAL TWEAKING WOULD BE IF WE CHANGE FROM 
"WHAT MATTERS TO YOU" TO "OUR BUDGET MATTERS," AND IF YOU 
NEED A MOTION TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH "OUR 
BUDGET MATTERS," I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 
THIS, REEVALUATE YOUR PRINT MEDIA, BUT WITHOUT THE PRINT 
MEDIA, I UNDERSTAND THE INTERNAL COSTS WOULD BE --
>>LORI HUDSON:  IT WOULD BE LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS 
WITHOUT PRINT MEDIA.
WE'D BE LOOKING AT JUST COST FOR SIGNS AND COST FOR THE 
POSTERS.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  OKAY.
THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD JOB.
>>LORI HUDSON:  THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER WHITE.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MR. HIGGINBOTHAM TOOK ONE OF MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE LENGTH 
OF THE MESSAGE.
I WAS LOOKING AT THAT TOO, BUT I WANTED TO BASICALLY 
COMPLIMENT YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, 
AND I THINK THE POSTER IDEA WOULD BE A WONDERFUL IDEA AS 
WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S A LOW-COST ALTERNATIVE IN OUR 
BUDGETARY TIMES, PLUS WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE MORE LOOKS AT 
THAT THAN THE PRINT MEDIA THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY 
ADVERTISED IN A COST OF, YOU KNOW, $4,000 AND PEOPLE COULD 
WALK PAST THE POSTERS QUITE OFTEN AND THEN DISSEMINATE IT 
FROM THERE AS OPPOSED TO A ONE-TIME AD AND THROWING IT IN 
THE GARBAGE CAN.
CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING TO SAVE OUR 
COUNTY MONEY AND OUR ADVERTISING AGENCY TO LET OUR CITIZENS 
KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING AND KEEP THEM UP-TO-DATE 
AND UP TO SPEED ON COMMUNICATIONS, BUT I THINK YOU'RE DOING 
A WONDERFUL JOB.
>>LORI HUDSON:  THANK YOU.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MS. HUDSON, APPLAUSE WITH WHAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH AT 
LITTLE OR NO COST, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE 
CONSENSUS, THAT RATHER THAN GETTING ADS IN SOME LOCAL 
NEWSPAPERS OR COMMUNITY NEWSPAPERS, I THINK YOU'RE COVERING 
IT MORE THAN WELL ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT 
THERE.
AND IN THE NEWSPAPERS, OF COURSE, NOT THAT WE'RE ENGAGING 
THEM, BUT IN THE NEWSPAPERS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ARTICLES 
ALL THE TIME NOW ABOUT BUDGET, SO THEY'RE ALREADY AWARE OF 
THE FACT THAT THIS IS BUDGET SEASON, AND ONE THING I WOULD 
LIKE TO CAUTION THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS 
PORTION OF IT, NOT YOU, BUT SOMETIMES GOVERNMENT THINKS 
THEY'RE EXEMPT BY ABIDING BY OUR OWN ORDINANCES, SO LET'S 
BE CAREFUL WHERE WE PUT THESE SIGNS BECAUSE OUR SIGN 
ORDINANCE SAYS YOU CAN'T DO THIS, AND THEN GOVERNMENT 
STICKS IT OUT THERE.
IT'S LIKE, YOU FOLLOW THE RULES, I'M NOT GOING TO.
>>LORI HUDSON:  WE DON'T WANT THAT EMBARRASSMENT.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  IF YOU COULD PASS THAT ON.
I DON'T SEE IT'S YOU BEING THE ONE TO GO OUT THERE AND 
STICKING THE SIGNS IN, AND LET'S USE SOME COMMON SENSE AND 
FOLLOW THE SAME RULES WE WANT CITIZENS TO.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S GREAT.
"OUR BUDGET MATTERS," "YOUR BUDGET MATTERS," HOWEVER WE 
WANT TO DO IT, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS.
APPRECIATE IT.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER NORMAN.
>>JIM NORMAN:  AL, GOOD JOB.
YOU'RE REALLY REACHING OUT AND TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS 
TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU DID AN EXCELLENT REPORT ON HOW TO REALLY ACCOMPLISH 
THOSE GOALS, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD ON TO THE COMPLIMENT.
GOOD JOB.
>>KEN HAGAN:  EXCELLENT WORK.
>>MARK SHARPE:  [INAUDIBLE]
>>KEN HAGAN:  WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER 
HIGGINBOTHAM, SECOND COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, LORI.
>>AL HIGGINBOTHAM:  THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS.
>>PAT BEAN:  YOUR NEXT ITEM, COMMISSIONERS, IS G-1.
THIS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT REGARDING THE AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING STATUS OF HUD FUNDING, AND VALMARIE TURNER IS HERE 
TO PRESENT THAT.
>>KEN HAGAN:  GOOD MORNING, VALMARIE.
>>VALMARIE TURNER:  GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
VALMARIE TURNER, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
COMMISSIONERS, IN AN EFFORT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS 
POSSIBLE AS WELL AS COMPLY WITH THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN 
WITH THE INTERNAL PERFORMANCE AUDITOR, WE PRESENT TO YOU 
OUR INITIAL QUARTERLY REPORT.
THE REPORT DETAILS THE EFFORTS OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
DEPARTMENT STAFF, PARTICULARLY AS RELATES TO BECOMING MORE 
EFFICIENT AND MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR FEDERAL, STATE, AND 
LOCAL FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED TO THIS DEPARTMENT.
THIS QUARTER OUR DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED TWO SEPARATE ACTION 
PLANS IN RESPONSE TO THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE 
AMERICAN RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT, WHICH IS OUR CDBG 
FUNDS, AS WELL AS OUR HOMELESS PREVENTION AND RAPID 
REHOUSING FUNDS.
WE HAVE ALSO CREATED WHAT WE FEEL TO BE AN EFFECTIVE 
NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS 
APPROVED BY OUR HUD DEPARTMENT, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING 
AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY ON TRACK WITH ALL OF OUR EXPENDITURE AND 
COMMITMENT DEADLINES FOR FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING.
THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS 
EXTREMELY COMMITTED TO THE MISSION AND GOALS OF THE 
DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
COUNCILMAN SCOTT, WHO IS ALSO THE CHAIR OF OUR AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING ADVISORY BOARD, IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AS 
WELL AS OUR CONSULTANT, WHICH IS PUBLIC FINANCIAL 
MANAGEMENT.
THEY'RE ALSO HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM AS WELL.
>>KEN HAGAN:  GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN SCOTT.
GREAT TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND TO THIS BOARD.
LET ME JUST FIRST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE 
AND TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE BUT ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE 
SERVICE THAT YOU RENDER TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE 
COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY.
I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR A NUMBER OF YOU THAT 
WE WORK TOGETHER ON A NUMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, AND 
IT'S BEEN GREAT, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT 
WE DO TOGETHER, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, SO LET ME JUST 
EXPRESS THAT.
SECOND, LET ME JUST SAY THAT I'VE BEEN AFFORDED THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
ADVISORY BOARD.
AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH SOME GREAT 
CHALLENGES, AND THE CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT YOU TOOK TO YOUR 
BENEFIT AND TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAS PAID OFF.
THAT DEPARTMENT IS DOING EXTREMELY WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT.
WE'RE NOT 100%, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE COME A LONG 
WAY, AND BASED ON AT LEAST THE SHIP'S AUDIT AND FINDING, 
THEY GOT 91 OUT OF A POSSIBLE HUNDRED.
I THINK THAT IS EXTREMELY WELL, AND SO I'M HERE TO SUPPORT 
THE RECOMMENDATION AND YOUR SUPPORT OF THE AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
LET ME ALSO SAY I THINK VAL HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB IN 
RESPONDING TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TASK FORCE -- NOT TASK 
FORCE BUT THE ADVISORY BOARD IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS AND 
INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED, AND SO I WANT TO THANK 
HER AND HER STAFF AND AGAIN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WHILE I'M STANDING ALSO, I WOULD ALSO LIKE, 
IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, TO SAY THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
ADVISORY BOARD TOOK A VOTE ON THE NSP, THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
STABILIZATION PROGRAM, AND WE SUPPORT THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, 
AND WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT OF THAT AND APPROVAL AS WELL, AND 
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR THE 
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, AND COMMISSIONER NORMAN, I WORE 
THIS TIE FOR YOU SINCE YOU ALWAYS LOVE MY TIES.
[LAUGHTER]
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SCOTT.
>>JIM NORMAN:  YOU STILL NEED SOME TRAINING.
[LAUGHTER]
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS PETER KESSENICH.
I'M A MANAGING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, AND 
WE'RE HERE -- I'M HERE WITH MICHAEL MANDELBAUM FROM OUR 
FIRM TO GIVE YOU A REPORT ON OUR PROGRESS OF THE REVIEW OF 
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
PFM IS THE NATION'S LARGEST INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL ADVISORY 
FIRM AND ALSO AN INVESTMENT ADVISORY FIRM.
WE'VE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE FINANCIAL ADVISOR NATIONWIDE FOR 
THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
WE HAVE OVER 405 PROFESSIONALS LOCATED IN 33 OFFICES AND AN 
UNPARALLEL OF INDUSTRY AND SECTOR SPECIALISTS.
LAST YEAR WE ADVISED ON ALMOST 700 MUNICIPAL BOND 
TRANSACTIONS WITH JUST UNDER $43 BILLION.
MORE LOCALLY HERE, THOUGH, PFM HAS SERVED AS THE FINANCIAL 
ADVISOR TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SINCE 1991.
OVER THAT TIME WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY AND HELPED 
THE COUNTY ISSUE ALMOST $2 BILLION WORTH OF NEW MONEY BONDS 
FOR PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTY AS WELL AS REFUNDING BONDS 
TO ACHIEVE DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY 
WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO ESTABLISH A DEFEASANCE ESCROW 
FOR CERTAIN OF THE COUNTY'S UTILITY SYSTEM BONDS.
IN ADDITION TO JUST FINANCIAL ADVISORY WORK ON BOND ISSUES, 
PFM ALSO PROVIDES AN ARRAY OF STRATEGIC MUNICIPALITY 
CONSULTING SERVICES.
BOB GAMBLE FROM OUR FIRM AND MICHAEL MANDELBAUM HAVE BEEN 
WORKING WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, AND MICHAEL 
IS HERE THIS MORNING TO BRIEF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON 
THE PROGRESS TO DATE.
MICHAEL.
>> THANK YOU, PETER, AND GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
AS PETER WAS SAYING, WE WERE ENGAGED BY THE COUNTY RECENTLY 
TO HELP IN ITS EFFORTS TO RESTRUCTURE AND REORGANIZE ITS 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, AND AS I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL 
AWARE, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ISSUES A FEW YEARS BACK 
RELATING TO THE MANAGEMENT OF GRANTS AND INTERNAL 
PROCEDURES.
AS A RESULT, THE COUNTY HAS GONE THROUGH AN ENORMOUS EFFORT 
TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES.
A LOT OF THIS IS FORMALIZED AND CAPTURED BY SOME OF THE 
REPORTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, THE AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT, THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT, AND THE 
CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN THAT CAME FROM THAT, AND REALLY OUR 
INVOLVEMENT WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT COMES 
OUT OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 4, WAS 
THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ENGAGE AN OUTSIDE 
CONSULTANT TO HELP WITH ITS EFFORTS, AND AS PETER WAS 
MENTIONING, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE 
COUNTY AS ITS AFFORDABLE -- OR ITS FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AND 
BOB GAMBLE AND MYSELF ARE PART OF THE SPECIALISTS AT PFM.
WE FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO WE'VE BEEN FOLDED INTO 
THE EFFORT TO HELP THE COUNTY WITH ITS RESTRUCTURING.
WHEN WE FIRST TALKED TO THE COUNTY ABOUT SORT OF OUR ROLE 
IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO DO TO HELP 
WITH THE EFFORTS, WE ARRIVED AT A FOUR-PHASE WORK PLAN THAT 
WOULD ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN THAT 
WOULD HELP GUIDE THE RESTRUCTURING AND REORGANIZATION 
EFFORTS ONGOING, AND TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT 
WHAT EXACTLY THE ANALYSIS IS CONSISTING OF AND WHAT WE'RE 
PROCEEDING WITH, THE FOUR PHASES WERE WHAT WE'VE LAID OUT 
FOR YOU HERE.
THE FIRST PHASE IS JUST SIMPLY RESEARCHING AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING IN THE COUNTY AND FLORIDA TO BRING OURSELVES UP TO 
SPEED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT ELSE IS BEING DONE IN 
THE STATE.
THE SECOND PHASE IS A BEST PRACTICES RESEARCH AND SURVEY, 
AND THIS IS REACHING OUT TO OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
PROVIDERS, PRACTITIONERS, GETTING A FEEL FOR WHAT THEY'RE 
DOING.
THE FOCUS WAS INITIALLY ON FLORIDA, BUT WE ALSO TALKED TO 
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA JUST SO WE COULD COMPARE DIFFERENT 
STRATEGIES IN DIFFERENT LOCALITIES.
THE FOLLOWING STEP WAS DATA ANALYSIS, BOTH IN THE INITIAL 
RESEARCH ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THROUGH THE BEST PRACTICES 
SURVEY.
WE'VE COLLECTED A LOT OF DATA, AND THERE'S ALWAYS TIME TO 
SORT OF COMPILE IT, SUMMARIZE IT, AND MAKE SENSE OF IT, AND 
AS I STATED, THE END GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH 
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD IN AN ACTUAL 
STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN THAT WILL LAY OUT THESE 
RECOMMENDATIONS, THE STEPS THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO TAKE TO 
ACT UPON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND PROVIDE REALISTIC 
TIMING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO GET ALL 
THESE THINGS DONE.
AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES I'LL GET INTO JUST A LITTLE 
MORE DETAIL ABOUT EACH OF THESE PHASES AND WHAT THEY 
ACTUALLY ENTAIL.
SO THAT WAS THE BACKGROUND BEHIND OUR ENGAGEMENT, AND NOW 
I'M GOING TO FOCUS A LITTLE MORE ON WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY 
BEEN DOING.
I BELIEVE I MENTIONED WE STARTED WORKING IN JANUARY, AND 
THE FIRST PHASE, AGAIN, WAS RESEARCHING THE COUNTY, ITS 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, HOW IT OPERATES, AND HOW 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN FLORIDA WORKS GENERALLY, AND A BIG 
PART OF THAT WAS REVIEWING THE MANY, MANY DOCUMENTS YOU 
HAVE RELATING TO YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, THINGS 
LIKE YOUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN WITH HUD THAT'S UPDATED EVERY 
FIVE YEARS, YOUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS A SPECIFIC 
YEAR'S ACTIVITY, IN HUD YOUR NOFAs WHERE YOU REACH OUT TO 
YOUR LOCAL PARTNERS TO LET THEM KNOW OF FUNDS AVAILABLE, 
AND JUST REVIEWING ALL THESE IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS TO GET A 
FEEL FOR THE COUNTY AND THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THEY 
HAVE IN PLACE.
MY COLLEAGUE, BOB GAMBLE, ALSO CAME OUT TO VISIT THE 
COUNTY.
IN MID-FEBRUARY HE WENT AROUND, TALKED TO A LOT OF THE 
STAFF AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, MET WITH MANY 
OF YOUR LOCAL PARTNERS, NONPROFITS, AND LENDERS, ALSO JUST 
TO GET A FEEL OF HOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKS WITH THE 
COUNTY, AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ONGOING 
DISCUSSIONS WITH VALMARIE AND OTHER STAFF AT THE 
DEPARTMENT.
THE NEXT STEP OF OUR ANALYSIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING 
BEST PRACTICES RESEARCH AND SURVEY PROCESS, AND AGAIN, THIS 
IS FOCUSING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF 
FLORIDA AND NATIONWIDE TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT ARE THE BEST 
PRACTICES THAT WORK, WHAT ARE THE POLICIES THAT HAVE DONE 
REALLY WELL IN OTHER AREA, SPECIFICALLY SIMILAR AREAS IN 
FLORIDA, AND TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE THIS AND PROVIDE IT TO 
THE COUNTY TO INFORM IT OF POTENTIALLY POLICY OPTIONS THAT 
IT MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE STARTED WITH A TARGET GROUP OF 14 FLORIDA AND FIVE 
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPALITIES.
WE SENT THEM SURVEYS, WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, ASKED FOR 
THEIR HELP IN OUR EFFORT, AND AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO NOT 
ONLY DO THIS TO GET AN IDEA OF BEST PRACTICES IN PLACE 
RIGHT NOW, BUT FORWARD-LOOKING TO SET UP A STRUCTURE FOR 
THE COUNTY IN ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO INTERACT 
WITH ITS PEERS, TO TALK REGULARLY WITH ITS PEERS, AND 
FIGURE OUT THE STRATEGIES THEY'RE USING TO TACKLE COMMON 
CHALLENGES.
AND THIS IS THE STAGE OF OUR ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE KIND OF 
JUST WRAPPING UP, AND TO SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU, THE -- YOUR 
COLLEAGUES IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT FLORIDA HAVE 
BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND THEY'VE PROVIDED US SOME GREAT 
INFORMATION.
AT THIS POINT WE'VE TALKED TO POLK, CITRUS, BROWARD, 
MANATEE COUNTIES IN FLORIDA, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA, 
AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO SACRAMENTO, LOS ANGELES, SAN 
FRANCISCO IN CALIFORNIA.
WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED WRITTEN RESPONSES -- DETAILED WRITTEN 
RESPONSES FROM PINELLAS COUNTY IN FLORIDA AND ANOTHER 
STANISLAUS COUNTY IN CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS THE CITIES OF 
ORLANDO AND TALLAHASSEE, SO WE'VE TRIED TO BE VERY 
COMPREHENSIVE IN GOING OUT AND TALKING TO A LOT OF 
DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA 
JUST TO SEE HOW -- AGAIN, THE POLICIES THEY'VE PUT IN PLACE 
TO DEAL WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE STRATEGIES THEY'VE 
USED TO FACE THE COMING CHALLENGES.
AND WHILE WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE SURVEYS WE'RE HOPING TO 
RECEIVE, WE'RE STARTING TO CLOSE THIS PROCESS AND REALLY 
FOCUS ON ANALYZING THE DATA WE'VE RECEIVED, WHICH IS NOT 
JUST THE SURVEY RESPONSES, BUT ALSO ALLOW THESE SAME 
DOCUMENTS IN TERMS OF CONSOLIDATED PLANS AND NOFAs THAT 
WE'VE REVIEWED INITIALLY FOR HILLSBOROUGH.
AND AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO JUST SORT OF OFFER AN INITIAL 
ASSESSMENT OF THE COUNTY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT 
BASED ON THE RESEARCH WE'VE DONE THUS FAR, AND A LOT OF 
THIS IS REVIEWING THE QUARTERLY STATUS REPORT VALMARIE JUST 
SENT AROUND TO YOU, AND I BELIEVE OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT IS 
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS MADE TREMENDOUS, 
TREMENDOUS PROGRESS, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF MANAGEMENT 
AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AS COUNCILMAN SCOTT REFERENCED, ON THEIR MOST RECENT SHIP 
PROGRAM AUDIT THEY RECEIVED A SCORE OF 91% WHICH LANDED IT 
IN THE HIGHEST SCORING CATEGORY, BUT I THINK EVEN MORE 
IMPORTANT THAN THAT IS IF YOU LOOKED AT THE DETAIL OF THE 
AUDIT ITSELF, THE AUDITOR'S COMMENTS WERE VERY 
COMPLIMENTARY, AND THEY WENT TO A GREAT EXTENT TO POINT OUT 
THE PROGRESS SPECIFICALLY MADE BY THE COUNTY AT ITS 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
ANOTHER KEY STEP THAT'S APPARENT IN THE QUARTERLY STATUS 
REPORT IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS NOW EITHER 
ON TIME OR AHEAD OF TIME IN TERMS OF ADMINISTERING ITS 
GRANTS, BOTH MEETING THE CDBG TIMELINESS REQUIREMENT AND 
ALSO BEING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE WITH THE DISBURSEMENT OF HOME 
FUNDS, AND AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S ALSO BEEN 
A GREAT EFFORT WITH WORKING WITH NSP, THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
STABILIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE NEW ONE-TIME 
GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT 
HAS HAD TO DO A LOT OF WORK TO SORT OF PREPARE FOR THE 
MONEY COMING IN AND MAKING SURE IT'S DISBURSED IN A PROPER 
MANNER.
AND AS I SAID, WE VIEW THESE ALL AS POSITIVE SIGNS THAT 
SORT OF THE INITIAL PROBLEMS IN TERMS COMPLIANCE IN 
MANAGEMENT, THEY ARE REALLY BEING DEALT WITH, AND IN TERMS 
OF TURNING THE SHIP AROUND, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
DEPARTMENT REALLY HAS TURNED THE SHIP AROUND AND ITS 
PERFORMANCE IS GREATLY IMPROVED, SO LOOKING FORWARD, PFM, 
WE REALLY FEEL WHERE WE CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE TO THE COUNTY 
AND ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS IN THE DIRECTION 
IT IS TAKING.
NOW THAT IT SORT OF HAS THE PROPER POLICIES AND PROCEDURES 
IN PLACE, IT ALSO NEEDS A STRATEGIC VISION FOR HOW IT'S 
GOING TO SERVE THE COUNTY RESIDENTS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE 
GOING TO TRY AND FOCUS ON AS WE FINALIZE OUR ANALYSIS.
AND JUST TO, AGAIN, TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ONGOING 
PROGRESS, ANOTHER VERY GOOD SIGN WAS THE WORK AND EFFORT 
PUT INTO THE COUNTY'S NSP MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND AS WE'RE 
SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR ANALYSIS, WE'RE ALREADY 
STARTING TO FORMULATE RECOMMENDATIONS, THINGS THAT WE WERE 
GOING TO SUGGEST TO THE COUNTY POLICIES AND STRATEGIES THEY 
SHOULD IMPLEMENT, AND WE WERE VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED 
THAT IT TURNED OUT A LOT OF THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO 
RECOMMEND WERE ALREADY INCORPORATED INTO THE NEIGHBOR -- 
NSP MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND THESE ARE THINGS LIKE INCREASED 
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COOPERATION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT 
HAS COORDINATED GREATLY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO MAKE SURE 
THEIR EFFORTS ARE COORDINATED.
IT'S THINGS LIKE INTERDEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION, THERE IS A 
PLAN FOR HOW THE VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS ARE ALL GOING 
TO INTERACT AND WORK TOGETHER TO ADMINISTER THIS MONEY AND 
UNDERTAKE THIS ENORMOUS EFFORT, AND ALSO, THE AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF REACHING OUT TO 
ITS LOCAL PARTNERS, BOTH LOCAL LENDERS AND NONPROFITS, TO 
MAKE THEM AWARE OF NSP, THE MONEY THE COUNTY WILL BE 
RECEIVING, AND WHAT AHD INTENDS TO DO WITH THAT MONEY.
SO AGAIN, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE NSP MANAGEMENT PLAN AS 
ANOTHER INDICATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS TURNED AROUND AND 
IS NOW ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
SO GOING FORWARD, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON IN OUR 
ANALYSIS IS AGAIN COLLECTING AND ANALYZING ALL THE DATA 
WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE ABOUT OUR INITIAL RESEARCH PHASE AND 
SORT OF THIS BEST PRACTICES SURVEY PROCESS, AND THE HOPE IS 
OR THE GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE'RE CALLING A MATRIX 
THAT WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY AND ITS DECISION-MAKERS TO 
COMPARE ITS POLICIES THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS IN PLACE WITH 
THOSE OF OTHER FLORIDA AND CALIFORNIA MUNICIPALITIES ON 
CERTAIN TARGETED AREAS, AND THESE CAME FROM DISCUSSIONS 
WITH COUNTY STAFF AND OUR OWN RESEARCH, BUT THESE ARE ON 
AREAS LIKE WRITTEN POLICIES, WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON PAPER, 
YOUR PERFORMANCE METRICS TO SORT OF MEASURE THE PROCESS 
YOU'RE MAKING, STRATEGIC PLANNING NOT JUST THROUGH THE HUD 
OR THE CD -- OR OTHER SHIP PROCESSES BUT A DEPARTMENTWIDE 
STRATEGIC PLANNING, HOW YOU CHOOSE YOUR LOCAL NONPROFIT 
PARTNERS AND THE INCENTIVES YOU PUT IN PLACE FOR THEM, YOUR 
FUNDING POLICIES, YOUR ZONING POLICIES, SO WE'RE REALLY 
GOING TO TRY AND BE COMPREHENSIVE AND INFORM BOTH THE 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DECISION-MAKERS 
WITHIN THE COUNTY, SORT OF THE FULL SPECTRUM OF AFFORDABLE 
HOUSING POLICIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA SO THEY CAN COMPARE AND 
CONTRAST AND MAKE DECISIONS FROM THERE, AND AS I SAID, THIS 
IS THE ONGOING STAGE OF OUR ANALYSIS, BUT WE HOPE TO BE 
WRAPPING THIS UP IN THE COMING WEEKS, AND FROM THIS I THINK 
-- AS I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO 
MOVE AHEAD TO THE NEXT STEP AND FOCUS ON THE 
RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING FOR THE COUNTY, 
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE 
FOCUSED ON --
>>KEN HAGAN:  WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE MINUTES, SIR, SO 
PLEASE -- WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE MINUTES.
>> OKAY.
IT'S THINGS LIKE USING TAX INCREMENT REVENUE OR HOW YOU 
REACH OUT TO FAITH-BASED NONPROFITS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO 
COME UP WITH SPECIFIC CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS AND ALSO HOW YOU 
COULD IMPLEMENT THEM, BUT FOR OUR FINAL REPORT, WHAT WE'RE 
GOING TO FOCUS ON IS NOT JUST WHAT'S BEING DONE BUT HOW CAN 
IT HELP THE COUNTY.
YOU HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF CHALLENGES.
AGAIN, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS, BUT THERE'S 
MORE TO GO, SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON HELPING THE 
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF 
ITS HOUSING PRODUCTION GIVEN ITS LIMITED FINANCIAL 
RESOURCES AND ADDRESS THE HIGH FORECLOSURE RATES AND 
FALLING HOME VALUES IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS ONE 
OF THE THINGS NSP IS REALLY DESIGNED TO DO.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HOPE TO HAVE A DRAFT OF OUR 
BUSINESS PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS BY MID-JULY AND COME BACK 
TO PRESENT IT TO YOU ALONG WITH THE SUPPORTING DATA FOR ALL 
OUR FINDINGS BY EARLY AUGUST.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR EFFORT OR WHAT WE'VE 
DONE SO FAR OR WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE FUTURE, I'D BE MORE 
THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THEM RIGHT NOW.
>>KEN HAGAN:  THANK YOU, SIR.
COMMISSIONER WHITE.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL -- I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE 
END OF THEIR PRESENTATION OR WAS THAT --
>> THAT WAS THE END.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  I WAS HOPING.
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
THIS IS TO VALMARIE TURNER.
I WANTED TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP 
OVER -- AS YOUR NEW POSITION IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
OFFICE.
AS WE KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SO IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL 
IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND SOME OF THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES 
THAT YOU'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT 
YOU'RE CONTINUING TO FINE-TUNE AND PUT INTO PLACE THAT IS 
REALLY TURNING THAT DEPARTMENT AROUND, AND ONE OF THE 
THINGS THAT'S CRITICAL IN THIS TIME THAT WE'RE IN, THIS 
NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE AND 
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE NONPROFITS TO HELP THEM TO HELP 
THE COMMUNITY AND AS WELL AS US HELPING THEM TO WEAN OFF OF 
COUNTY FUNDING AND TO BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT.
AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO MY 
ATTENTION THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HUD AND HUD IS NOW GOING 
TO BE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH OUR NONPROFITS TO TRAIN THEM 
FREE OF CHARGE, NOT TO -- NO CHARGE TO US --
>>VALMARIE TURNER:  NO CHARGE TO THE COUNTY, THAT'S 
CORRECT.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  -- TO BUILD THEIR CAPACITY AND TO BE SELF-
SUSTAINABLE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE PART IN ALL THESE PROGRAMS 
TO, IN TURN, HELP THE COMMUNITY AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 
ARENA.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD JUST REAL BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, 
TELL SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS -- DON'T KNOW IF THEY 
ALL KNOW THAT -- OR SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OR SOME 
NONPROFITS THAT MAY BE LISTENING, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE 
OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS OUTREACH TO THOSE 
NONPROFITS AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS AS WELL SO THEY 
WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU AND/OR 
HUD AND BECOME INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM.
>>VALMARIE TURNER:  SURE, I'LL BE GLAD TO.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT 
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK WITH OUR HOME PROGRAM, AND WE'RE 
REQUIRED TO SET ASIDE 15% OF OUR FUNDING EVERY YEAR FOR 
THOSE ENTITIES.
WE HAVE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST AS IT RELATES TO NONPROFITS 
THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BUILD OR TO DO ANY TYPE 
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION.
AS SUCH, I REACHED OUT TO OUR HUD REPRESENTATIVE, ASKING 
THEM FOR SOME ASSISTANCE AS RELATES TO BUILDING CAPACITY.
WE HAVE -- RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE NONPROFITS THAT ARE 
CERTIFIED AS COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS, 
ONE OF WHICH IS VERY, VERY -- A VERY, VERY GOOD AGENCY THAT 
HAS THE CAPACITY.
TWO OF THEM ARE STRUGGLING, AND IN ORDER TO HELP BUILD THE 
CAPACITY AS WELL AS SPEND THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE SET ASIDE 
FOR THOSE PARTICULAR ENTITIES, HUD HAS AGREED TO DO 
TRAINING AND HELP BUILD THEIR CAPACITY FOR THOSE PARTICULAR 
NONPROFITS, AND I SHARED THAT WITH COMMISSIONER WHITE ON 
YESTERDAY.
IN JULY WE'LL HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S COMING DOWN FROM AN 
ORGANIZATION CALLED TDA THAT WILL BE PROVIDING TECHNICAL 
ASSISTANCE TO THOSE AGENCIES, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE 
TO OPEN THAT UP TO MORE NONPROFITS AS WE HAVE MORE 
NONPROFITS THAT WANT TO PARTNER WITH US THAT DO NOT HAVE 
THE CAPACITY, SO YES, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, 
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER NORMAN.
>>JIM NORMAN:  WITH ALL THE ACCOLADES GOING AROUND, I 
REMEMBER WHEN TOM SCOTT YEARS AGO BROUGHT THIS TO OUR BOARD 
WHEN HE WAS 75 POUNDS HEAVIER AND --
[LAUGHTER]
-- YOU THOUGHT I FORGOT THOSE DAYS, DIDN'T YOU?
YOU LOOK GREAT, MAN.
BUT I REALLY DO REMEMBER WHEN YOU BROUGHT THAT HERE AND HOW 
YOU WERE PASSIONATELY TO LEAD IT FROM THIS BOARD AND YOU'VE 
CONTINUED ON AND IT'S CONTINUED HELPING PEOPLE, SO THANKS A 
LOT, TOM.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.
>>KEVIN WHITE:  SO MOVE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  MOTION COMMISSIONER WHITE.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  SECOND COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  ONE THING.
THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A MOTION TO ACCEPT G-1, THE REPORT.
LAST WEEK MS. TURNER OFFERED TO MEET WITH ME ON SOME 
ISSUES.
I DIDN'T NEED TO AT THE TIME, MS. TURNER.
SINCE THEN I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT 
NECESSARILY OF CONCERN BUT PERHAPS MAYBE POTENTIALLY OF 
CONCERN, SO I NEED TO MEET WITH YOU ON THOSE.
NOW I DO.
LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T BEFORE BUT NOW I DO, NOTHING TO DO 
WITH ACCEPTING THIS REPORT, SO IF YOU'LL CHECK WITH MY 
OFFICE, MAYBE WE CAN FIND A TIME TO DISCUSS THE TWO ITEMS.
>>VALMARIE TURNER:  I SURE WILL.
THANK YOU.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  I JUST GOT THEM THIS MORNING -- NOT EVEN 
THIS MORNING, LATE THIS MORNING, SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW 
ENOUGH ABOUT THE E-MAILS, ET CETERA, TO EVEN DISCUSS IT.
>>VALMARIE TURNER:  I SURE WILL.
THANK YOU.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  OKAY.
THANKS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>KEN HAGAN:  RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>VALMARIE TURNER:  THANK YOU.
>>PAT BEAN:  YOUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM B-1, AND MIKE MERRILL 
IS GOING TO PRESENT THIS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  GOOD MORNING, MIKE.
>>MIKE MERRILL:  GOOD MORNING.
MIKE MERRILL, UTILITIES AND COMMERCE ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS IS A FOLLOW-ON TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU JUST HEARD 
CONCERNS THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM WHICH IS A 
VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM.
WE'VE RECEIVED $19.1 MILLION TO HELP ACQUIRE AND 
REHABILITATE AND PLACE HOUSING WITH PEOPLE WHO NEED HOUSING 
IN AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT NEED TO BE REVITALIZED.
A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY THE STAFF TO GET THIS CUED 
UP AND READY TO GO.
I THINK YOU HEARD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLICIES, 
PROCEDURES, THE PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE.
WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS RELATES TO THIS ITEM, B-1, IS 
THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE PROPERTIES, WE HAVE TO 
BE ABLE TO GO AFTER THEM, GET THEM ON A TIMELY BASIS, GET 
THEM AT THE BEST PRICE, AND SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO 
YOU IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU APPROVED FOR US BACK IN JANUARY 
WITH REGARD TO THE REHAB PROGRAM.
WITH REGARD TO THE REHAB PROGRAM, YOU DELEGATED UP TO 
$50,000 IN AUTHORITY TO VALMARIE, FROM 50,000 TO 100,000 TO 
ME IN ORDER TO KEEP REHAB PROJECTS MOVING ON A TIMELY 
BASIS.
WE'RE TAKING THAT SORT OF MODEL AND APPLYING IT TO THIS 
CONCEPT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THESE FORECLOSED PROPERTIES, 
SO THIS AGENDA ITEM RECOMMENDS UP TO $50,000 IN DELEGATION 
TO VALMARIE, 50 TO 100 TO ME, AND WE'RE ADDING TO THAT -- 
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE MULTIFAMILY, 
FOURPLEX, DUPLEX, THAT WILL PROBABLY BE OVER 100,000, 
GRANTING TO PAT BEAN FROM 100,000 TO 200,000 AUTHORITY TO 
ENTER INTO CONTRACTS TO ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES, SO WITH 
THAT, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH -- RENEE 
LEE WAS VERY GENEROUS IN PROVIDING TO US A VERY COMPETENT 
LAWYER, HELENE MARKS, WHO'S WITH US TO WORK FULL-TIME WITH 
US ON THIS PROGRAM TO HELP US ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES, GET 
THEM AT THE BEST PRICE, GET THEM LOCKED UP, AND MOVE ON 
WITH THE PROGRAM.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM 
BOARD MEMBERS?
COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
>>MARK SHARPE:  I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION YOU MADE.
I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, WITH REGARD TO THE -- THE -- SO 
THAT THE BOARD IS APPRISED AND KNOWS WHAT'S TAKING PLACE 
AND THAT THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, HOW WILL THIS BE 
TRACKED?
>>MIKE MERRILL:  YES.
I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
THE RESOLUTION ALSO PROVIDES THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS WE 
COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A COMPLETE UPDATE ON THE 
PROGRESS OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED IN THE PRIOR 
30 DAYS.
>>MARK SHARPE:  THANK YOU, SIR.
MOVE APPROVAL.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  YEAH, AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE POINT 
TO THAT.
COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, FOR COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY, 
THAT THOSE ARE ALSO AVAILABLE IN OUR BACKUP AS WELL AS ON-
LINE TO THE PUBLIC?
>>MIKE MERRILL:  YES.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THOSE REPORTS AS WELL?
>>MIKE MERRILL:  THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.
YES.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA:  MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, I NEED TO QUALIFY MY 
POSITION, AND THIS IS CERTAINLY NOTHING TO DO WITH 
MS. TURNER, MR. MERRILL, OR MS. BEAN.
AT THIS POINT I'M JUST UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE THRESHOLD 
AMOUNTS, SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT FOR SIMPLY THAT 
REASON.
>>KEN HAGAN:  OKAY.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION BY 
COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  SECOND.
>>KEN HAGAN:  SECOND COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
NO FURTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 5-2.
COMMISSIONERS FERLITA AND NORMAN VOTED NO.
>>MIKE MERRILL:  IF I COULD TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE 
HARDWORKING STAFF FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
WHY DON'T YOU STAND UP.
THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO'VE HELPED TURN THE OFFICE AROUND 
AND ARE DOING A TERRIFIC JOB, AND ALSO TO RECOGNIZE RACHAEL 
GREENSTEIN FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHO'S BEEN AN 
EXTREMELY HELPFUL RESOURCE AND PARTNER WORKING WITH US, SO 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>KEN HAGAN:  I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL OF YOU ALL FOR YOUR 
HARD WORK.
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
NEXT ITEM.
>>PAT BEAN:  THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM B-9, WHICH WAS SCHEDULED 
FOR 11:15.
THIS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT ON THE CURRENT ACTIVITIES OF 
THE TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT LUCIA GARSYS IS COMING FORWARD TO MAKE 
THIS PRESENTATION.
>>JIM NORMAN:  KEN, CAN WE DO THIS IN THIS SHORT A PERIOD 
OF TIME?
>>KEN HAGAN:  I HOPE SO.
WE'VE GOT A LENGTHY AFTERNOON, SO I WANTED TO TRY TO 
SQUEEZE IT IN.
>>JIM NORMAN:  OKAY.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE?
>>ROSE FERLITA:  FIVE MINUTES.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  OH.
>>KEN HAGAN:  30 SECONDS.
NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  I COULD DO THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 
SECONDS AND FIVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY START BY INTRODUCING BOB CLIFFORD 
FROM TBARTA WHO IS WITH US TODAY AND BETH ALDEN WHO IS FROM 
THE MPO, AND OUR HART PARTNER COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY, BUT 
WE ARE ALSO PARTNERING WITH THE CITIES AS WE TALK ABOUT THE 
TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND HILLSBOROUGH'S TRANSPORTATION 
FUTURE.
TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO TODAY, JUST QUICKLY RUN THROUGH 
WHERE THE TASK FORCE IS TODAY, GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHERE 
THE DIRECTION IS, AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE KEEP THIS 
BOARD INFORMED AND HOW WE WORK WITH THIS BOARD AS WE MOVE 
FORWARD.
QUICKLY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE, 23 MEMBERS, 
PHASE 1, THE $500-MILLION PROGRAM, PHASE 2, WE ARE NOW 
LOOKING AT MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AND HOW IT 
MIGHT BE FUNDED.
TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE HIGHLIGHTS OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES, 
COORDINATE WITH THE AGENCIES INVOLVED, MAKE SURE IT'S A 
MULTIMODAL APPROACH, ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AND ELECTED 
OFFICIALS, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A REFERENDUM.
AND THE YEAR IS 2010 OF NOVEMBER -- NOVEMBER OF 2010.
CURRENTLY TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE IS LOOKING AT THE 
PROJECT, LOOKING AT THE TRANSIT PROJECTS, ALSO LOOKING AT 
THE NONTRANSIT PROJECTS WITH THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AND 
IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE WOULD BE, MATCHING REVENUES AND 
COSTS AND ALSO CONDUCTING -- RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS 
OF CONDUCTING JOINT PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS, AND SOME OF YOU 
MAY HAVE HEARD THIS AT THE MPO BOARD MEETING YESTERDAY, SO 
I'LL MOVE QUICKER.
TIMELINE, IF YOU WILL, THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS THAT WE 
SEE TO THE TIMELINE OF THIS, AND THIS HAS ALSO BEEN 
PRESENTED BEFORE.
ONE IS THE LEGAL, AND THAT REALLY IS KIND OF WHAT ARE THE 
PIECES THAT NEED TO BE IN PLACE FOR THE REFERENDUM.
THIS BOARD GAVE DIRECTION TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO START 
LOOKING AT REFERENDUM LANGUAGE.
AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOT A PACKAGE FOR THE REFERENDUM 
LANGUAGE, BUT WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY 
ATTORNEY'S, WORKING WITH THEM.
IF A REFERENDUM TO BE HELD IN NOVEMBER '10, WE REALLY WOULD 
LIKE TO PRESENT SOMETHING FROM THIS BOARD FROM THE 
TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE THIS FALL, END OF SEPTEMBER, 
EARLY OCTOBER SO THAT ALL THE APPROPRIATE ORDINANCES COULD 
BE SHAPED.
THE TECHNICAL LINE, IF YOU SEE, THERE ARE THREE PIECES THAT 
ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THAT IS THE TBARTA MASTER PLAN 
HAS BEEN ADOPTED, MPO LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WILL 
BE ADOPTED, IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEW RIGHT NOW, AND THEN 
THE HART ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS IS UNDERWAY.
THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROGRAM HAS BEGUN AND WILL CONTINUE TO 
MOVE THROUGH NOW AND AFTER THE PACKAGE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED.
SO THESE THREE PIECES, THE LEGAL, THE TECHNICAL, AND THE 
OUTREACH I'LL COME BACK TO IN THE END IN TERMS OF HOW WE 
COMMUNICATE WITH YOU.
THE TASK FORCE IS PREPARING A PROGRAM FOR YOUR 
CONSIDERATION.
IN ADVANCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SCENARIOS AND 
OPTIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TABULATING THE RESULTS OF THE 
PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS, AND KEEPING YOU INFORMED ALONG THE 
WAY.
IMPORTANT DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE TASK 
FORCE I THINK IS CONSISTENT WITH MUCH OF WHAT THIS 
COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SAYING IS THAT THE TRANSIT SURTAX IS THE 
PIECE THAT THEY'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT AND THE UP TO 1%, NOT 
THE FULL PERCENT NECESSARILY BUT EXPLORING UP TO 1% AND 
WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN.
AND THE TASK FORCE HAS ASKED US TO EXPLORE THESE OPTIONS 
LOOKING AT THE HART AD VALOREM IN PLACE.
THE OTHER THING, AT THE LAST MEETING THE TASK FORCE 
ENDORSED THE TAMPA-ORLANDO HIGH-SPEED RAIL PROJECT.
TRANSIT SURTAX, JUST THE DETAILS ABOUT IT.
WE CAN SPEAK IN FUTURE MEETINGS ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT 
GENERATES AND WHAT THAT CAN BE USED FOR, HOW IT IS TO BE 
ADOPTED AND THE VARIOUS OPTIONS BY WHICH IT CAN BE ADOPTED.
NUMBERS THAT WE USE RIGHT NOW, SOME FOLKS SAY, YOU KNOW, 
THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.
THEY'RE DIFFERENT BECAUSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES HAVE DIFFERENT 
NEEDS.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS COME TO SOME KIND OF 
PRESENTATION WHERE WE CAN DO THESE AS -- AS COHESIVELY AS 
POSSIBLE.
NONTRANSIT MOBILITY NEEDS, CERTAINLY NOT JUST TRANSIT.
THERE'S A PIECE OF THIS THAT REALLY HAS TO ADDRESS THE 
OTHER COMPONENTS, AND WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF NEEDS THAT 
DEAL WITH ROADS, AND AS YOU WILL SEE AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR 
CAPITAL PROGRAM, UNFUNDED ROADS AS WELL, ROADS THAT WERE 
ONCE FUNDED THAT WILL NOW BECOME UNFUNDED.
PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS.
12 MEETINGS SCHEDULED.
WE HAVE NOW HAD TWO OF THEM, ONE IN TOWN 'N COUNTRY, ONE IN 
SOUTH TAMPA, ONE TONIGHT, AND ONE TOMORROW NIGHT.
PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE AND FOLKS BEING INTRODUCED TO THESE 
MEETINGS OR LISTENING TOURS, AND THEY ARE BEING HELD 
JOINTLY ON YOUR BEHALF THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION TASK 
FORCE BUT ALSO INCLUDING TBARTA, HART, AND THE MPO AND 
TRYING TO MAKE FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE COMMONALITIES 
ARE AMONGST THOSE PLANS.
THOSE WILL CONTINUE MAY-JUNE.
WAS THAT MY THREE MINUTES?
>>KEN HAGAN:  KEEP TALKING.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  AND THEN WE WILL BE BRINGING YOU THE 
INFORMATION AND THE RESULTS OF THOSE.
CONSULTANT HAS BEEN -- WE HAVE HIRED GEC TO DO SOME WORK 
FOR US AND OVERLAYING THE PROJECTS TO SEE HOW THE TRANSIT-
NONTRANSIT PROJECTS WORK TOGETHER, LOOK AT SOME SEQUENCING 
ISSUES AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIAL NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
NEXT STEPS, TASK FORCE IS MOVING THROUGH THESE.
I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOCC IN OCTOBER IS 
IMPORTANT BUT ALSO IMPORTANT IS IN SEPTEMBER WE WILL BE 
BRINGING FORTH TO YOU THE -- WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE 
OPTIONS AND THE REFERENDUM LANGUAGE AS WELL, AT LEAST IN 
SOME FORMAT THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER.
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, MONTHLY UPDATES TO THIS BOARD ON 
WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE IS.
A LOGICAL TIME IS ONCE THE TASK FORCE MEETS TO BRING 
INFORMATION TO YOU.
WORKSHOPS WERE IDENTIFIED.
GIVEN BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND BUDGET WORKSHOPS, WE'RE 
LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKSHOPS BUT ALSO LOOKING AT 
BOARD MEETINGS -- AND BOARD MEETINGS AS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND 
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TARGET THESE PRESENTATIONS IN THESE 
THREE AREAS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, 
WHAT'S THE REFERENDUM LANGUAGE, AND INTERLOCAL 
JURISDICTIONS THAT NEED TO -- INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT 
NEED TO BE APPROVED, WHAT ARE THE TRANSIT AND NONTRANSIT 
NEEDS THAT ARE COMING TOGETHER AS PART OF THIS PACKAGE, AND 
WHAT'S THE COMMUNITY SAYING TO US IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE 
HEARING FROM FOLKS AS WE REACH OUT TO THEM.
SO THE -- THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO BRIEF YOU AFTER THE 
TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE MEETS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, BUT THE 
FORMAT IS WHETHER IT'S IN A BOARD MEETING OR WHETHER IN A 
WORKSHOP IS STILL KIND OF WE'RE LOOKING AT SCHEDULES TO SEE 
HOW THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
I WILL NOW STOP BECAUSE I THINK I'VE EXCEEDED MY THREE 
MINUTES.
>>KEN HAGAN:  GOOD JOB.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN.
>>JIM NORMAN:  I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THE TASK 
FORCE IS DOING AND EVERYTHING.
YOU-ALL ARE DEVELOPING A PLAN, YOU'RE REACHING OUT, YOU'RE 
LISTENING.
YOU KNOW, I'M ONE COMMISSIONER THAT PROBABLY THINKS A 
LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN A LOT OF MY BOARD MEMBERS SITTING 
HERE.
AND I GUESS I -- THIS IS IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST OF 
TBARTA.
I GUESS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME MEET WITH ME ON AN 
INDIVIDUAL BASIS BECAUSE MY CONCEPT WHEN WE STARTED DOWN 
THIS RAIL THING WAS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A REGIONAL 
SYSTEM AND THAT THE INITIAL IDEA OF GALVANO AND DEVELOPING 
ALL OF THIS WAS TO EMPOWER TBARTA IN DEVELOPING A FUNDING 
FOR TBARTA TO PUT IN A NETWORK SYSTEM FOR ALL COUNTIES 
INVOLVED IN TBARTA.
THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING IS GOING VERY RAPIDLY, AND I -- I DID 
SUPPORT GOING OUT AND LETTING THE FOLKS DEVELOP A -- SOME 
LANGUAGE FOR HERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE GOING VERY RAPIDLY ON 
A $200 MILLION TAX IN THE WORST TIME PERIOD EVER AND 
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOING IT ALONE.
I SEE THE STRENGTH OF A SYSTEM AS AN ENTIRE MULTICOUNTY 
NETWORK SYSTEM THAT FROM THE BEACHES TO THE AIRPORT TO THE 
COUNTY TO PASCO TO -- I SEE THAT AS THE STRENGTH OF A 
SYSTEM, AND IF WE PUT IN A SYSTEM -- I KNOW YOU SAY, WELL, 
WE'RE GOING TO BE FIRST.
WELL, I SEE THE STRENGTH OF LIKE THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT 
TAMPA BAY WATER WAS.
YOU DEVELOP A MULTICOUNTY PLAN, YOU GIVE THE EMPOWERMENT OF 
A WATER SYSTEM LIKE THAT, AND THEY CREATE AN ENTIRE SYSTEM 
THAT WORKS LIKE A UTILITY.
THAT'S WHERE I IN EARLY PHASES THOUGHT TBARTA WAS GOING, 
AND ALL THE REPORTS I READ AND EVERYTHING, THAT'S JUST NOT 
WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ANY LONGER.
IT'S FOCUSING ON WHAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S GOING TO DO.
AGAIN, I MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THE LONE GUY OVER HERE 
THINKING THAT TO TAX OUR PEOPLE AT $200,000 RIGHT NOW IS A 
VERY HARD PILL TO SWALLOW.
I'D LIKE TBARTA TO COME TALK TO ME.
LIKE I SAID, I WAS AT THE INITIAL PHASES OF GALVANO AND ALL 
THE WORK THEY DID TO TRY TO FORM TBARTA, AND I THOUGHT WAS 
THE INITIAL EFFORTS, SO I'D JUST LIKE TO BE CLARIFIED ON 
WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  AND I THINK, COMMISSIONERS, WE TALK ABOUT 
THE TRANSIT AND NONTRANSIT NEEDS AS THAT COMES BEFORE YOU, 
THE TBARTA PLAN, THE HART ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, AND THE 
UPDATE ARE KEY COMPONENTS OF THOSE -- THAT PRESENTATION.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER SHARPE.
>>MARK SHARPE:  I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, 
AND I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO ATTEND ONE OF THE TOWN MEETINGS 
AND IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD 
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR A LENGTHY 
PERIOD OF TIME, AND THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS, INCLUDING 
TBARTA, HAVE REALLY BEEN WALKING HAND IN HAND WITH THIS 
WITH TBARTA AND MPO AND THE OTHERS.
MY QUESTION REALLY GOES DOWN MORE TO THE PROCESS.
COMMISSIONER FERLITA HAD AN IDEA, AND I WAS CONCERNED 
ABOUT -- I THINK MAYBE I GOT MORE FOCUSED ON THE -- 
LEGALISTICALLY THE LANGUAGE ITSELF AND WHETHER OR NOT WE 
HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN SITTING DOWN.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S AS IMPORTANT AS GIVING EVERYONE A FAIR 
OPPORTUNITY AND COMPLETE TOTAL OPPORTUNITY TO WORKSHOP 
THIS, TO ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS POSSIBLE, AND TO GIVE 
THEMSELVES AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS THE COMFORT OF KNOWING 
THAT -- WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND 
THEN ALSO PROVIDING DIRECTION, SO I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION 
I WOULD HAVE OF, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS IS JUST 
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE 
TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD AND PRESENT INFORMATION THAT THE 
TASK FORCE IS LOOKING AT, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND 
CHALLENGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE POSED TO THE CITIZENS, 
QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER NORMAN AND OTHERS HAVE POSED, 
THEY NEED TO BE FULLY PRESENTED AND FULLY VETTED, SO, YOU 
KNOW, I -- I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
THIS IS VERY CHALLENGING, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S -- IT 
DOES PROVIDE US SOME -- AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY.
THERE WAS A PIECE IN THE -- WE RECEIVED IT AT THE MPO.
IT WAS IN THE GEORGIA PAPER A FEW DAYS BACK, AND GOVERNOR 
SONNY PERDUE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE 
LOOKING AT LOSING OVER 300,000 JOBS, POTENTIAL JOBS BECAUSE 
THEIR LEGISLATURE IS NOT LETTING THEM DO WHAT WE'RE DOING, 
WHICH IS DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF MOBILITY IN 
TRANSPORTATION, AND YOU'VE GOT A MAYOR IN CHARLOTTE, PAT 
McCRORY, FISCAL CONSERVATIVE SAYING ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S 
RIGHT, AND THE COMPANIES AND JOBS ARE LOOKING AT COMING TO 
CHARLOTTE WHERE ALONG ONE LINE ALONE THEY'VE SEEN OVER $2- 
TO $3 BILLION IN INVESTMENTS ALONG THAT LINE, ECONOMIC 
DEVELOPMENT FROM PRIVATE INDUSTRY DEVELOPING WHERE -- SO 
THESE ARE FAIR QUESTIONS, BUT THEY JUST NEED TO BE FULLY 
VETTED AND THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF 
ONCE A MONTH IS ENOUGH.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  AND AS I THINK -- YOU KNOW, WHAT -- 
BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A MOMENT WHERE WE NEED AN 
OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF BUILD A FOUNDATION TO GET ALL OF THE 
TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT'S COME TOGETHER SO QUICKLY.
A LOT OF IT IS IN JUST THE LAST MONTH OR TWO WHERE IT HAS 
ALL KIND OF MESHED TOGETHER.
THAT MAYBE THE OFFER WOULD BE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, TO START 
WITH A WORKSHOP AND GET THAT FOUNDATION BUILT AND THEN SEE 
WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THE NEED FOR UPDATES, AND IF THEY 
NEED TO BE MORE FREQUENT, THEN --
>>MARK SHARPE:  BUT I WOULD ALSO -- I'D LIKE AS WELL FOR 
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR -- FOR INSTANCE, MR. CLIFFORD OR DAVID 
ARMIJO OR RAY CHIARAMONTE, THE OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN 
INVOLVED, FDOT, THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE 
CONVERSATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW -- ONE INDIVIDUAL SAID WE'VE 
BEEN DOING THEM FOR TEN YEARS.
WELL, THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR QUITE A WHILE BUT OVER THE 
LAST TWO IN PARTICULAR TO GET UP AS WELL AND SPEAK BEFORE 
THIS BOARD, ANSWER QUESTIONS, TALK ABOUT PRESENTATIONS 
THEY'VE ALREADY MADE IN THE PAST, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU 
MAKE A PRESENTATION AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT ALL FITS IN, 
SO IT'S A CHANCE TO HEAR IT AGAIN BUT THEN TIE IT TOGETHER 
SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, SO I SAID I'M READY TO 
RECONSIDER ANY QUESTION THAT'S BEEN POSED BEFORE AS TO HOW 
TO BEST DO THIS TO GET THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO AS MANY 
PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
>>LUCIA GARSYS:  COMMISSIONER, THOSE PARTNERS ARE HERE 
BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THEM, AND THEY DO 
RECOGNIZE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THEY WOULD BE THE KEY PIECE OF 
IT.
WE COULD NEVER REPRESENT THE TBARTA COMPONENT WITHOUT THEM.
>>MARK SHARPE:  YOU'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE TASK 
FORCE, THANK YOU, AND I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN AS WELL 
BECAUSE HE'S DONE, I THINK, AND EXCELLENT JOB RUNNING THIS 
TASK FORCE.
>>KEN HAGAN:  COMMISSIONER BECKNER.
>>KEVIN BECKNER:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
MS. GARSYS, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT 
YOU'VE DONE ON THE TASK FORCE, PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER.
I WAS IN ATTENDANCE AT ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITY FORUMS 
LAST THURSDAY AT WEBB MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I THINK YOU 
STARTED TO PROVIDE A GOOD OVERVIEW ON HOW ALL THESE 
ORGANIZATIONS ENTERED LATE.
I STILL, THOUGH -- AND I E-MAILED YOU SOME QUESTIONS, AND 
IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, I THINK 
THAT WILL ALSO ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ME AS WELL AS 
HOW ALL THIS COMES TOGETHER, BUT I STILL THINK WHAT IS 
MISSING HERE, AS COMMISSIONER NORMAN HAD MENTIONED, 
COMMISSIONER SHARPE SEEMS TO ALLUDE TO, AND OF COURSE, 
COMMISSIONER FERLITA BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING, I 
WOULD STILL STRONGLY URGE AND SUPPORT A WORKSHOP WHERE EACH 
ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THIS ARE SITTING 
IN THE ROOM IN FRONT OF THE BOARD WHERE WE CAN ASK 
QUESTIONS OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, WHERE WE CAN START TO SEE 
HOW ALL OF THESE ARE TYING TOGETHER, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE 
DOING A LOT OF THE COORDINATING ON THE TASK FORCE, BUT 
STILL I THINK NOW WE NEED TO START HEARING AND WE'RE 
START -- I SEE -- I KNOW ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN 
SITTING AT YOUR TABLE, BUT MAYBE THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT 
OF QUESTIONS COULD BE CLARIFIED FROM THE DIFFERENT BOARD 
MEMBERS IF EVERYBODY, INSTEAD OF GOING TO YOU AND THEN US 
GOING TO HAVE TO ASK MPO SOMETHING, HART SOMETHING, YOU 
KNOW, TBARTA THIS, IF WE'RE ALL SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM, A 
REPRESENTATIVE, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS THERE AND START 
MESHING ALL THIS OUT.
SO I STILL SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER FERLITA HAD 
MADE BEFORE ABOUT FORMING A WORKSHOP, AND AGAIN, I DON'T 
KNOW HOW LONG THESE WORKSHOPS NEED TO GO ON OR FOR HOW 
MANY.
CERTAINLY START WITH AT LEAST ONE WORKSHOP AND SEE WHERE -- 
IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL WORKSHOPS OR THE BOARD CAN MAKE A 
DETERMINATION AT THAT TIME WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH THIS.
>>KEN HAGAN:  WELL, WHY DON'T WE ACCEPT A MOTION TO RECEIVE 
THE REPORT AND TO DIRECT LUCIA TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP AT 
THE TIME SHE FEELS IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME DEPENDING 
ON WHERE THE TASK FORCE IS AND OUR DELIBERATIONS.
>>MARK SHARPE:  I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
>>KEN HAGAN:  AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHARPE, SECOND BY 
COMMISSIONER HIGGINBOTHAM.
NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
>>RECORDING SECRETARY:  MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
>>KEN HAGAN:  LUCIA, I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR 
ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS TASK FORCE AND THE COMMUNITY 
MEETINGS.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK BOB CLIFFORD FOR EVERYTHING HE'S DOING 
WITH HIS LEADERSHIP WITH TBARTA.
SO THANK YOU.
OKAY.
WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE ADJOURNED THIS MORNING, AND WE'LL 
RECONVENE AT 1:45.


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